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Post by Hezz on Nov 7, 2016 21:07:40 GMT
Oops, didn't think a green budgie could be anything but a yellow faced, nev90. How does that come about?? Is it in the body diffusion??
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Oct 6, 2011 7:41:27 GMT
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Nov 7, 2016 21:08:59 GMT
Spyro is an opaline and he doesn't have grey feet. What colour are they then Hezz?
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Post by Hezz on Nov 7, 2016 21:16:18 GMT
Spyro is an opaline and he doesn't have grey feet. What colour are they then Hezz? Head slap, Marianne Marlow!!!! He DOES have grey feet, not PINK feet!!! I will go back and change that right now!
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Oct 8, 2016 15:21:31 GMT
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Post by weelouie on Nov 8, 2016 0:12:26 GMT
Oops, didn't think a green budgie could be anything but a yellow faced, nev90 . How does that come about?? Is it in the body diffusion?? A yellow face type 2 that looks green is actually a blue budgie. The yellow face 2 gene expresses itself in the face, but also as a yellow overlay or "bleed" into the body colour. With the yellow bleed the blue body turns green (or sometimes greenish turquoise), but because it's a bleed which is somewhat translucent (like a watercolour) you will see a bit of the underlying blue as well. That's the difference between yellow face 1 and 2. The yellow face type 1 does not have the bleeding effect, that's why you can get yellow face 1 birds with a pure blue body.
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Oct 7, 2011 21:27:38 GMT
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Post by nev90 on Nov 8, 2016 1:27:29 GMT
Pink feet can be an indication of a mutation but not every cinnamon will have pink feet and often pink feet will appear in other mutations.
The cheek patches are very dark on this bird which would be very unusual if she was cinnamon.
Probably her body colour would have been blue when she was a chick. A check under her wings could reveal some blue feathers which would confirm the type 2 yellow face.
Note also that no iris rings are showing even though she is a mature hen. This could indicate that she is split for recessive pied.
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Post by Hezz on Nov 8, 2016 6:57:05 GMT
Thank you, nev90. I did notice the lack of iris rings, but thought it might simply be the photo ..... photos can lie, we all know that. She certainly is an interesting one.
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Nov 8, 2016 8:12:50 GMT
Thanks for all that information nev90, you really are the master at this. If she is split for recessive pied then this might explain the pink feet I guess. Yes folks, I really am obsessed with pink feet! my first bird Monty was too, I must have caught the bug!
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Oct 8, 2016 15:21:31 GMT
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Post by weelouie on Nov 8, 2016 15:39:47 GMT
Thanks for all that information nev90 , you really are the master at this. If she is split for recessive pied then this might explain the pink feet I guess. Yes folks, I really am obsessed with pink feet! my first bird Monty was too, I must have caught the bug! I think I've caught a bug, too! I've been casually researching the colours and mutations of my six Budgie City budgies. All are pieds except the alpha cock who's the yellowface 2. That's how I knew about YF2, because I was curious about his odd dark bluish green colour which didn't seem to fit the shades of green I could find. I think I have some dominant pieds and some recessive. A couple have patches of the same green colour as the alpha cock. All are yellow base colour except one cock who's blue and white. However, none have eye rings except the alpha. That could be because they're young. Re foot colour, I had never noticed it before, other than in my button quail which have bright neon orange feet (hard to miss). I'll have to check today. Once I finish my research, I'll have to post my conclusions along with pics, and see if I'm right.
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Nov 8, 2016 16:02:47 GMT
That will be very interesting weelouie, can you tag me in it when you post it? I'm fascinated by foot colour!
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Oct 29, 2016 20:51:29 GMT
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Post by anastasia on Nov 9, 2016 22:14:53 GMT
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Post by anastasia on Nov 9, 2016 22:29:01 GMT
Thanks for the thorough analysis everyone! A lot of it has sailed clean over my head but as I learn more I'm sure it will all become meaningful.
To answer all remaining questions (let me know if I forget any), hopefully you can see in the photographs above that she has no barring on her head or face, but does have subtle marks on her upper back. I had never noticed the blue tinge but think I see it now. I will try to see the underside of her wing if she gives me the chance, but she doesn't like being touched much and I don't want to risk hurting her by making her hold them open. Eyes are black inside, light brown outside.
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Post by Hezz on Nov 10, 2016 4:19:40 GMT
So iris rings are starting to form, by the sounds of it.
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Oct 29, 2016 20:51:29 GMT
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Post by anastasia on Nov 10, 2016 9:34:14 GMT
Is the light brown her iris? I assumed it was the albumen. Pink feet can be an indication of a mutation but not every cinnamon will have pink feet and often pink feet will appear in other mutations. The cheek patches are very dark on this bird which would be very unusual if she was cinnamon. Probably her body colour would have been blue when she was a chick. A check under her wings could reveal some blue feathers which would confirm the type 2 yellow face. Note also that no iris rings are showing even though she is a mature hen. This could indicate that she is split for recessive pied. Update! This morning I let her wash herself under a running faucet instead of her bath, and she spread her wings up just long enough for me to confirm they are are a beautiful torquoisey blue underneath! So Type 2 yellowface it is, then?
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Post by anastasia on Nov 10, 2016 22:58:50 GMT
Is the light brown her iris? I assumed it was the sclera.* Pink feet can be an indication of a mutation but not every cinnamon will have pink feet and often pink feet will appear in other mutations. The cheek patches are very dark on this bird which would be very unusual if she was cinnamon. Probably her body colour would have been blue when she was a chick. A check under her wings could reveal some blue feathers which would confirm the type 2 yellow face. Note also that no iris rings are showing even though she is a mature hen. This could indicate that she is split for recessive pied. Update! This morning I let her wash herself under a running faucet instead of her bath, and she spread her wings up just long enough for me to confirm they are are a beautiful torquoisey blue underneath! So Type 2 yellowface it is, then? *Edited cos apparently the whites of the eye are NOT given the same name as the whites of an egg. How many years have I been looking like a moron getti g the two mixed up!?
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