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Post by OP on Sept 16, 2017 6:55:05 GMT
The 32 bit processor makes a rethink necessary for this flash player thing. I will get back to you on that. I have chores calling this morning. Whoopee.
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Sept 16, 2017 7:54:29 GMT
Thank you. Hope the chores go well. Please only look into this when you have spare time. In the grand scheme of things it's not that important
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Post by OP on Sept 17, 2017 9:30:45 GMT
I've had a chance to google the web and can find nothing that makes a difference between 64 bit and 32 bit processors for this problem Marianne Marlow. So if you check in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ on your computer and see if the file is there. If it is then you will need to check the PATH is in your list. To do that in the console type printf "$PATH\n" You should get a line of directories that are in your PATH variable. Look for the above string i.e. /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/. . The output for the command should be a long line of directories with each path separated by a colon. Let me know what you find, please.
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Sept 18, 2017 8:25:23 GMT
These are the files I have
flash-mozilla.so libjavaplugin.so libgnome-shell-browser-plugin.so librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Sept 18, 2017 8:27:35 GMT
in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ that is..
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Post by OP on Sept 18, 2017 9:31:50 GMT
Sorry but the bad news is Pepper-Flash-Player is not supported for the 32 bit processor anymore by Google because it used to be part of their Chrome web browser. It is available if you want to compile it from the source code. I have to warn you that it gets messy from here on. Do you want to get your hands dirty?
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Sept 18, 2017 12:29:39 GMT
I'm wondering if I should just move all my files to my Freecom external hard drive, install the 64bit version of Debian 9 and go from there? Apparently my netbook can handle 64bit. Which do you think is the better option?
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Post by OP on Sept 18, 2017 13:29:47 GMT
I have done a complete re-install myself a few times now by moving all my files to an external hard drive. If you don't do things like run web servers or databases on your current machine then it is quite easy and safe. You just have the effort of getting your machine back up and running as you want. I can't say you will notice any difference in speed on a 64 bit system as you will soon get used to it, it's just that more and more developers are changing to that architecture. I'm not able to tell you which way to go that is up to you. The only other thing I could say is that if you changed your system you would still have to work around the Flash-Player scenario, although it would certainly be a lot easier. It it were me I would go for it, but that's the sort of thing I do. I have certainly given myself some headaches though.
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Sept 18, 2017 13:51:25 GMT
I did a complete re-install recently, several times in fact. A few months ago, I spilled tea on my netbook keyboard and the keyboard and mousepad stopped responding. I plugged in an external keyboard but on a couple of occasions the netbook randomly switched itself off. I wont even talk about the trouble I had even ordering and getting a netbook delivered.. I bought a refurbished netbook, which I didn't realise was older than the previous one! I thought I'd try Lubuntu on it, but it was too slow, then I tried Linux Mint, also slow. So I settled on Debian 9. I had Debian 8 previously so I thought oh well, can't be much different. I had quite a few issues with it! Firstly Libre office writer wouldn't open (fixed), then I couldn't view my files from my camera when I plugged it in(worked around by installing Shotwell) then it wouldn't update(fixed) and now I have discovered Flash doesn't work (pending!)
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Post by OP on Sept 18, 2017 14:10:19 GMT
The joys of computers. They are supposed to make life easier. I don't know who said that. I can't recall ever throwing tea on mine though. The Libre office suite has changed in quite a big way from the old Office suite. I have the Mageia 6 installed now with the KDE window manager. It has its good points and the not so god points. That's one of the plus sides of Linux for me and that is choice. Yes you seem to be swimming against the tide a little bit there with the updates. I know the feeling you are not on your own. Decisions, Decisions.
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Sept 18, 2017 14:46:17 GMT
I use XFCE as my window manager. The only OS's that seem to work on this netbook are Debian based ones. The Ubuntu ones are really slow. I believe the term is they carry a lot of "bloat". I didn't exactly throw tea on my netbook I had my tea on my table, next to my netbook. Hector was on my left hand, I was typing with my right hand. Hector spotted something... probably Custard .. in the distance. As you're probably aware, he cannot fly. He tried to launch himself off my hand, I tried to grab him with both hands, in the process I knocked my tea over, some splashed onto my keyboard and mousepad. It was probably a thimble of tea that made it that far, the rest went on the floor. The air turned a bit blue, especially when I realised my netbook was effectively bricked.
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Post by OP on Sept 18, 2017 15:13:16 GMT
That is a catastrophe. It just goes to show that liquids and modern computers don't mix. I wouldn't have expected such a small amount to do so much damage. It must have been the way the tea entered. Did Hector say sorry?
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Sept 18, 2017 15:19:21 GMT
Hector did not say sorry.
Maybe he did it on purpose because he thinks I spend too much time typing and not paying him attention.
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Sept 19, 2017 13:20:01 GMT
OP You mentioned something about compiling from source code. Can you elaborate on what that means? The reason I ask is: there is a Microsoft application called "Windows Live Writer", not sure if you're familiar with it? I used to use it for writing Blog Posts when I first started my blog back in 2010 and had windows. When I moved to Linux I couldn't find an alternative to it, it was just brilliant, you could write blog posts offline, get all the photos in the right places and then send it to the blog. Well recently Microsoft have released Windows live writer as open source - "Open Live Writer" and supposedly the source code is available on something called GitHub. Neither applications work with wine, it was the first thing I tried. Is this something that is possible to "compile from source code" ?
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Post by OP on Sept 19, 2017 15:09:47 GMT
I have not heard of Open Live Writer but I have heard of GitHUB. I have not explored it though, but it gets mentioned on various forums. If you can get the source code then it you should be able to compile it. The thing with compiling programmes is the libraries that you need to go with the code. It is quite easy to run into something called dependency nightmare. It happens when one library depends on another library which depends on the first library. If you can find a write up of what is needed then it is well worth doing. there is a number of things you need to start compiling such as make, cmake or automake, g++ or c++. These are compilers that take your source code and, well, compile it. The subject is quite deep and you will have a lot of learning to do. But I found it great fun when I could see properly. I spent hours and hours at it. I have forgotten a lot of the terminology now Back when I first started with Linux it was Debian that I started with and had to earn how to compile the kernel.
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