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parrot
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Understand the mutations Sept 21, 2018 17:49:27 GMT

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Post by parrot on Sept 21, 2018 17:49:27 GMT

hi, help me understand the mutations,

thanks.

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Hezz
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Understand the mutations Sept 22, 2018 1:22:46 GMT Marianne Marlow and bud9 like this

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Post by Hezz on Sept 22, 2018 1:22:46 GMT

Normal green spangles. Top bird is also an opaline.

Bird on the left probably normal green opaline, next either olive or grey-green probably dom pied spangle, then two again either olive or grey-green dom or recessive pieds.

On the left, hard to tell whether normal green or olive, spangle, dom, clear flight or recessive pied; right green spangle.

Hard to tell whether dom, clear-flight or recessive pieds from the back only.

I may not be completely right with all these, but these are my best (educated) guess.

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Understand the mutations Sept 22, 2018 8:36:44 GMT

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Post by Marianne Marlow on Sept 22, 2018 8:36:44 GMT

I'd guess the same as you Hezz. But the bottom two birds may also be opaline.

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Sept 21, 2018 17:44:49 GMT parrot Brand New Budgie Posts: 8	Understand the mutations Sept 22, 2018 18:02:32 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by parrot on Sept 22, 2018 18:02:32 GMT If I add photos, can you help me? as I understand if they are dominant or recessive Thank you.

Oct 7, 2011 0:19:27 GMT Hezz Staff Member Posts: 34,083	Understand the mutations Sept 23, 2018 0:42:34 GMT Marianne Marlow likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Hezz on Sept 23, 2018 0:42:34 GMT We can only try. Some are not clear just from a visual; you really need to know the genes behind the bird - knowing what each bird's parentage is.
	We are not Vets, Avian or otherwise. If you have any serious doubts about your budgies' health an appointment with an Avian vet should always be your first point of call. RIP Bluey 4/12/05 - 31/03/12 RIP Fluoro 22/09/12 - 28/12/12 RIP Smudge 1/03/10 - 8/07/15 RIP Sparky 24/04/11 - 03/10/17 MIA Misty 22/09/12 - 20/10/21 RIP Mango 03/12/13 - 20/05/23

parrot
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Understand the mutations Sept 23, 2018 18:48:49 GMT

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Post by parrot on Sept 23, 2018 18:48:49 GMT

hi, I think the number 2-3 of spangles is normal but the first is opal and the four?
what do you think about it?
the number four is the one shot in the first photo where you had answered "Normal green spangles. Top bird is also an opaline."
Thank you.

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Oct 7, 2011 0:19:27 GMT Hezz Staff Member Posts: 34,083	Understand the mutations Sept 24, 2018 0:48:12 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Hezz on Sept 24, 2018 0:48:12 GMT I don't understand what you are asking, sorry.
	We are not Vets, Avian or otherwise. If you have any serious doubts about your budgies' health an appointment with an Avian vet should always be your first point of call. RIP Bluey 4/12/05 - 31/03/12 RIP Fluoro 22/09/12 - 28/12/12 RIP Smudge 1/03/10 - 8/07/15 RIP Sparky 24/04/11 - 03/10/17 MIA Misty 22/09/12 - 20/10/21 RIP Mango 03/12/13 - 20/05/23

Sept 21, 2018 17:44:49 GMT parrot Brand New Budgie Posts: 8	Understand the mutations Sept 24, 2018 17:28:35 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by parrot on Sept 24, 2018 17:28:35 GMT which of these is opaline ? thanks. imageshack.com/a/img924/8886/uzjHFs.png

Sept 21, 2018 17:44:49 GMT parrot Brand New Budgie Posts: 8	Understand the mutations Dec 18, 2018 14:45:30 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by parrot on Dec 18, 2018 14:45:30 GMT What mutation is it? Thanks

Oct 7, 2011 0:19:27 GMT Hezz Staff Member Posts: 34,083	Understand the mutations Dec 18, 2018 19:06:30 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Hezz on Dec 18, 2018 19:06:30 GMT Cobalt opaline.
	We are not Vets, Avian or otherwise. If you have any serious doubts about your budgies' health an appointment with an Avian vet should always be your first point of call. RIP Bluey 4/12/05 - 31/03/12 RIP Fluoro 22/09/12 - 28/12/12 RIP Smudge 1/03/10 - 8/07/15 RIP Sparky 24/04/11 - 03/10/17 MIA Misty 22/09/12 - 20/10/21 RIP Mango 03/12/13 - 20/05/23

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