Mar 14, 2019 10:56:34 GMT
ladybird83
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Post by ladybird83 on Jun 7, 2019 15:33:11 GMT
Hello everyone, I bought my budgie few months ago, he is probably 6-12 months old. Lately I have noticed some crusty growth around his beak area and also some growth on his right eyelid. Since we don't have an avian vet nearby, I took him to an ordinary one. He told me it's nothing, rinsed the area and didn't prescribe any medication. Anyway I'm worried it might be something more serious, although his behavior (eating, drinking, pooping) is generally the same as the day I took him. I did some online research and I suspect on something but I want to hear your opinion, so can you please look/zoom at the images and tell me your suggestions of what it might be (the crusty thing around the beak and the growth on his right eyelid)
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Post by ladybird on Jun 7, 2019 17:07:07 GMT
Oh my goodness how can a vet say that’s nothing ,poor little budgie. I am not an expert on budgies at all, and I am sure someone will be along to help you soon, but it looks like a bad case of scaley beak to me and I do know it doesn’t just effect the beak. You and budgie will get help soon........
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Post by jellybean on Jun 7, 2019 18:33:42 GMT
It looks like scaly face mites to me. See what others think.
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Post by skysmum on Jun 7, 2019 22:22:05 GMT
Bless him, it certainly looks like scaly face. You can order Ivermectin 0.1% place one drop on the back of his neck once a week for three weeks.
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Post by Hezz on Jun 8, 2019 0:39:15 GMT
Looks like scaly mites to me, for sure. Without knowing where you live, I can't provide you with a link specific to your area, but this is the sort of thing you are looking for, and there are a few different brands making the same product: www.thebirdloftshop.com/product/ivermectin-0-1-anti-mite-drops-small-ornamental-birds-10ml/Follow the instructions given in the description in the link; whatever you do, DO NOT use anti-mite sprays - they are generally toxic to birds!!! Be careful to check that what you buy is of the correct percentage - 0.1% Ivermectin as the ingredient is used to treat parasites in other animals as well, but at a much higher dosage rate.
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Mar 14, 2019 10:56:34 GMT
ladybird83
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Post by ladybird83 on Jun 8, 2019 9:03:44 GMT
Thank you all for your answers. I was also suspecting on the scaly face mite disease. Obviously, ordinary vets are not so qualified for birds. I will try to search for the medication at the local veterinary pharmacy and if I can't find it there I will try to order it online. I'm just not sure how fast it spreads, so I hope it won't take so long to receive it....
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Oct 6, 2011 7:41:27 GMT
Marianne Marlow
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Jun 8, 2019 9:54:14 GMT
It does look like scalyface, as the others have said. I had a budgie with it last year (he was a rehome) He recovered in a month. Here are his photos:
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Post by ladybird on Jun 8, 2019 11:25:01 GMT
Just shows what a difference a month can make with the right treatment Marianne...... I am still shocked that a vet, even though not an avian vet could say there was nothing wrong. I hope he/ she didn’t charge 🙁 but expect they did.....
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Oct 6, 2011 7:41:27 GMT
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Jun 8, 2019 14:29:41 GMT
Just shows what a difference a month can make with the right treatment Marianne...... I am still shocked that a vet, even though not an avian vet could say there was nothing wrong. I hope he/ she didn’t charge 🙁 but expect they did..... Yes, Lemon made a full recovery! I agree with you. Even if the vet didn't know what it was, surely he could see that the growth was not normal!
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Post by Hezz on Jun 9, 2019 0:22:34 GMT
Thank you all for your answers. I was also suspecting on the scaly face mite disease. Obviously, ordinary vets are not so qualified for birds. I will try to search for the medication at the local veterinary pharmacy and if I can't find it there I will try to order it online. I'm just not sure how fast it spreads, so I hope it won't take so long to receive it.... Scaly face is not something to panic about; you do have time to find and order your treatment on-line. Your bird probably already had the mites when you purchased him and it is only now that they are starting to show. They can cause serious deformities but only if left untreated for a long period of time, as in years, not months. As you can see from Marianne Marlow's before and after photos of the bird she took in, Lemon, timely treatment will have your budgie looking as beautiful as ever in a short time. If you have other birds, I would advise you to treat them all for mites regardless of showing symptoms or not.
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Mar 14, 2019 10:56:34 GMT
ladybird83
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Post by ladybird83 on Jun 10, 2019 8:00:00 GMT
Thank you, I must say I'm a little bit relieved knowing that it doesn't spread so quickly and I'm happy to hear other birds, like Marianne's budgie got better with time. By the way, I was at the local veterinarian pharmacy, and they didn't have Ivermectin drops at the moment, but told me they will get them this week. I was asking for 0.1% saying that the medicine is used for other animals too and the seller told me it doesn't matter the budgie is an animal too,hmm.. he just said to lower the dosage to one drop (he wanted to give me several drops) and as far as I know the one for budgies (0,1%) also recommends one drop. Hmm... it's a little bit suspicious....I don't know if I should trust him, because previously the vet also said it is nothing and we all know those crusts mean something's wrong...
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Post by ladybird on Jun 10, 2019 8:19:59 GMT
Well not for me to comment really, but personally I would listen to the advice the ladies on here have given you. A wrong dose could be potentially dangerous. Good job you have found this site, I know it has helped me a lot.......
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Oct 6, 2011 7:41:27 GMT
Marianne Marlow
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Jun 11, 2019 12:00:27 GMT
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Mar 14, 2019 10:56:34 GMT
ladybird83
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Post by ladybird83 on Jun 12, 2019 7:35:27 GMT
Thank you, I was also looking for the medicine to order online, and checked the sites that you recommended but the amount is usually for treating bigger number of birds and I will probably have to wait for more than a month to come to my country. That's why I wanted to buy it from the local pharmacy, where they were offering to give me smaller amount, but I can't be sure it will be with the right percentage, or maybe they will dissolve it... hm..I don't know how harmful it might be to give one drop to my budgie from the Ivermectin that I guess is meant for bigger animals. .. I don't know what I should do... Maybe I will order it online if that is the safest way. By the way, I'm looking for some easy way to apply the medication, because my budgie is still scared and uncomfortable and doesn't let anyone to be near him. Has anyone tried this product: www.sprcentre.com/Online-Shop-Categories/Caged-Bird-Health-Care-Products/Johnsons-Scaly-Lotion-15ml
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Post by Hezz on Jun 13, 2019 7:14:14 GMT
Don't waste you money on that product that you have given the link for, and to answer your other question, you cannot simply dilute the Ivermectin product to the dosage you may need - it is NOT water soluble. I think it is glycerine that is the liquid it is suspended in. You have two links there to check out - the one that Marianne Marlow has used, and the other that I posted earlier. Order it immediately; even if it does take a month to get to you, your bird(s) will be fine to wait that long, and they will not be adversely affected having to wait the extra time. Better to be safe, and get them the correct dose.
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