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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Feb 24, 2012 7:56:12 GMT
Quick question I noticed that Serz uses marbles in his nestboxes to prevent the hen sitting to tight onto the chicks, would it be a good idea to use these in my nestboxes and when would you guys suggest I put these marbles in before any eggs are laid, during egg laying, after all eggs are laid or once the first chick hatches? Thanks Lushen Some breeders advise to do so. I have never done so and I guess a few more here would say the same.
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Dec 29, 2011 18:29:20 GMT
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Post by Lushen1600 on Feb 24, 2012 14:57:54 GMT
Just fed them some finely diced butternut and apple with a few slices of soaked bread, Wow they are eating as if there is a competition to see who can eat the most
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Oct 9, 2011 17:41:09 GMT
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Post by sydney on Feb 24, 2012 17:17:10 GMT
Has your hen got scaley on her eyes cause in both pictures it looks like it.
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Dec 29, 2011 18:29:20 GMT
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Post by Lushen1600 on Feb 24, 2012 17:29:12 GMT
Noticed today while watching them a male who is bonded to a female trying to mate with another female who is bonded to another male, so Nev you are right I won't know whether the chicks in a clutch all belong to the bonded male, this now makes things complicated, as I won't know the true parentage of the chicks, and this is the disadvantage of colony breeding, guess I'm gonna have to remove all the youngsters to another cage and keep only the females and sell all the male chicks and use the money to buy males from another breeder so make up new pairs for my next budgie aviary. The good thing about colony breeding though is that you got one cage to deal with so its easy maintenance especially if you are a working class person. Well if I do get Exhibition Budgies, then I would consider individual pair per cage breeding, but would only keep a few pairs so that I will be able to manage with the maintenance and feeding
Thanks Lushen
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Dec 29, 2011 18:29:20 GMT
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Post by Lushen1600 on Feb 24, 2012 19:01:52 GMT
Hi. Sydney, she had a bad case of scaly face and was treated with petroleum jelly
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Feb 24, 2012 20:50:20 GMT
Hi. Sydney, she had a bad case of scaly face and was treated with petroleum jelly Just petroleum jelly wont work in bad case of scaly face.
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Feb 24, 2012 20:53:06 GMT
Noticed today while watching them a male who is bonded to a female trying to mate with another female who is bonded to another male, so Nev you are right I won't know whether the chicks in a clutch all belong to the bonded male, this now makes things complicated, as I won't know the true parentage of the chicks, and this is the disadvantage of colony breeding, guess I'm gonna have to remove all the youngsters to another cage and keep only the females and sell all the male chicks and use the money to buy males from another breeder so make up new pairs for my next budgie aviary. The good thing about colony breeding though is that you got one cage to deal with so its easy maintenance especially if you are a working class person. Well if I do get Exhibition Budgies, then I would consider individual pair per cage breeding, but would only keep a few pairs so that I will be able to manage with the maintenance and feeding Thanks Lushen So here is one of the disadvantages to colony breeding. Also for me it is easier to take care of breeding pairs and chicks in breeding cages rather than one big cage.
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Oct 7, 2011 21:27:38 GMT
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Post by nev90 on Feb 24, 2012 21:06:45 GMT
The budgies that are genetically double factor dominant pieds shouldn't be almost all clear? And can a double factor dominant pied have pink cere and orange beak? Some double factor dominant pieds are almost totally clear and some have almost as much marking as a single factor. The shade of the cere, beak and feet depend on how the pied areas are distributed. Some double factor dominant pieds will have an iris ring in one eye but not the other. Combinations of pied types are quite common and they are often incorrectly identified
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Feb 24, 2012 21:09:32 GMT
The budgies that are genetically double factor dominant pieds shouldn't be almost all clear? And can a double factor dominant pied have pink cere and orange beak? Some double factor dominant pieds are almost totally clear and some have almost as much marking as a single factor. The shade of the cere, beak and feet depend on how the pied areas are distributed. Some double factor dominant pieds will have an iris ring in one eye but not the other. Combinations of pied types are quite common and they are often incorrectly identified So how to identify combinations pieds correctly if you don't know the parents?
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Oct 7, 2011 21:27:38 GMT
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Post by nev90 on Feb 24, 2012 21:10:27 GMT
she had a bad case of scaly face and was treated with petroleum jelly This type of treatment for scaly face only gives temporary relief, it is not a cure. One drop of bird strength ivermectin on the skin will cure the condition completely
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Oct 7, 2011 21:27:38 GMT
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Post by nev90 on Feb 24, 2012 21:17:40 GMT
Some double factor dominant pieds are almost totally clear and some have almost as much marking as a single factor. The shade of the cere, beak and feet depend on how the pied areas are distributed. Some double factor dominant pieds will have an iris ring in one eye but not the other. Combinations of pied types are quite common and they are often incorrectly identified So how to identify combinations pieds correctly if you don't know the parents? It is not easy. In some cases both mutations are obvious to a practiced eye but most would need breeding results to be sure. Here a link to a thread I wrote on the subject: budgerigarsforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=geneticscolours&action=display&thread=421
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Dec 29, 2011 18:29:20 GMT
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Post by Lushen1600 on Feb 24, 2012 21:19:43 GMT
quote author=budgiesbuddy board=budgiebreedingjournals thread=1948 post=26279 time=1330116620] Hi. Sydney, she had a bad case of scaly face and was treated with petroleum jelly Just petroleum jelly wont work in bad case of scaly face.[/quote] What else do you suggest I use for scaly face? The reason I ask is when I went to the pet store to buy treatment for scaly face and feet, the shop owner told me to use petroleum jelly and it removed the thick crust on the beak, eyes and feet, the reason her face looks so bad is that the scales were right around her eye when I got her. Thanks Lushen
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Dec 29, 2011 18:29:20 GMT
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Post by Lushen1600 on Feb 24, 2012 21:25:33 GMT
Ok thanks Nev will get some ivermectin and treat all my budgies with it, is this product sold all over the world
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Oct 7, 2011 21:27:38 GMT
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Post by nev90 on Feb 24, 2012 21:28:04 GMT
Quick question I noticed that Serz uses marbles in his nestboxes to prevent the hen sitting to tight onto the chicks, would it be a good idea to use these in my nestboxes and when would you guys suggest I put these marbles in before any eggs are laid, during egg laying, after all eggs are laid or once the first chick hatches? Lushen This helps to prevent splayed legs. The use of clean dry bedding in the nest is the best preventative for splayed legs because it keeps the nest dry. If the base of the nest gets wet and slippery the chicks can't get a proper grip with their feet and they will often develop splayed legs. Many hens will toss the bedding out before the eggs are laid but they will usually leave it in once they have chicks. There are several other causes but marbles and bedding prevent most cases
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Feb 24, 2012 21:53:28 GMT
Thanks Nev. That's what I thought that breeding them is the only way to know
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