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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Feb 24, 2012 21:55:15 GMT
Ok thanks Nev will get some ivermectin and treat all my budgies with it, is this product sold all over the world You will need ivermectin 0.1. If you treat your birds with ivermectin, you can't breed them for at least for 4 weeks.
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Feb 24, 2012 21:57:35 GMT
It is easily available in UK, USA and Australia.
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Oct 7, 2011 21:27:38 GMT
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Post by nev90 on Feb 24, 2012 22:30:51 GMT
If you treat your birds with ivermectin, you can't breed them for at least for 4 weeks. Who told you that? Most breeders I know treat their breeding birds when they put them in the breeding cage
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Dec 29, 2011 18:29:20 GMT
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Post by Lushen1600 on Feb 25, 2012 7:14:06 GMT
Just gave them some boiled egg and soaked bread, will remove whatever is not eaten in 2 hours time
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Feb 25, 2012 9:00:24 GMT
If you treat your birds with ivermectin, you can't breed them for at least for 4 weeks. Who told you that? Most breeders I know treat their breeding birds when they put them in the breeding cage Barrie told me. Also the Bird Company from whom I bought ivermectin, advised that it can result in infertile eggs and the birds should be allowed to breed after four weeks of the treatment.
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Feb 25, 2012 9:01:57 GMT
Barrie also treats all his breeding birds with ivermectin but it is in the preparation stage, well before they are placed in the breeding cages.
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Dec 29, 2011 18:29:20 GMT
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Post by Lushen1600 on Feb 25, 2012 19:31:17 GMT
Hi Nev so its possible that the male can be either a double factor dominant sky blue pied or a combined skyblue pied. So depending what he is he will produce different babies when mated to the dominant skyblue pied female. I'm gonna try using the genetic calculator to try and figure this out, I'm used to the ringneck calculator but not the budgie calculator so please correct me where I am wrong. So here goes my try
If the male is a double factor dominant pied then the results will be as follows
1.0 blue (Aus)pied(df) x 0.1 blue (Aus)pied(sf) % from all 1.0 50.0% 1.0 blue (Aus)pied(sf) 50.0% 1.0 blue (Aus)pied(df) % from all 0.1 50.0% 0.1 blue (Aus)pied(sf) 50.0% 0.1 blue (Aus)pied(df) Calculated on 25 Feb 2012 20:18:55
But if the male is a combined skyblue pied then the results should be as follows
1.0 blue (Aus)pied(sf) (Dan)rec.pied x 0.1 blue (Aus)pied(sf) % from all 1.0 25.0% 1.0 blue /(Dan)rec.pied 50.0% 1.0 blue (Aus)pied(sf) /(Dan)rec.pied 25.0% 1.0 blue (Aus)pied(df) /(Dan)rec.pied % from all 0.1 25.0% 0.1 blue /(Dan)rec.pied 50.0% 0.1 blue (Aus)pied(sf) /(Dan)rec.pied 25.0% 0.1 blue (Aus)pied(df) /(Dan)rec.pied Calculated on 25 Feb 2012 20:21:41
So these are my results according to the calculator, hope I entered everything right
Thanks Lushen
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Oct 9, 2011 17:41:09 GMT
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Post by sydney on Feb 25, 2012 21:08:26 GMT
It's more important for the hen to be treated rather than her breeding so don't see why she can't be treated now?
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Dec 29, 2011 18:29:20 GMT
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Post by Lushen1600 on Feb 25, 2012 21:46:51 GMT
Hi Sydney since there are opposing views on the use of ivermectin during breeding I'm gonna treat her with petroleum jelly again and once she is done hatching and rearing this clutch, I will then treat her with ivermectin
Thanks Lushen
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Oct 7, 2011 21:27:38 GMT
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Post by nev90 on Feb 25, 2012 22:43:41 GMT
If the male is a double factor dominant pied then the results will be as follows 1.0 blue (Aus)pied(df) x 0.1 blue (Aus)pied(sf) % from all 1.0 50.0% 1.0 blue (Aus)pied(sf) 50.0% 1.0 blue (Aus)pied(df) % from all 0.1 50.0% 0.1 blue (Aus)pied(sf) 50.0% 0.1 blue (Aus)pied(df) Calculated on 25 Feb 2012 20:18:55 But if the male is a combined skyblue pied then the results should be as follows 1.0 blue (Aus)pied(sf) (Dan)rec.pied x 0.1 blue (Aus)pied(sf) % from all 1.0 25.0% 1.0 blue /(Dan)rec.pied 50.0% 1.0 blue (Aus)pied(sf) /(Dan)rec.pied 25.0% 1.0 blue (Aus)pied(df) /(Dan)rec.pied % from all 0.1 25.0% 0.1 blue /(Dan)rec.pied 50.0% 0.1 blue (Aus)pied(sf) /(Dan)rec.pied 25.0% 0.1 blue (Aus)pied(df) /(Dan)rec.pied Calculated on 25 Feb 2012 20:21:41 So these are my results according to the calculator, hope I entered everything right Thanks Lushen The results are right provided your hen is not split for recessive pied. If she is split you could get some recessive pied and some combinations
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Dec 29, 2011 18:29:20 GMT
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Post by Lushen1600 on Feb 26, 2012 4:29:47 GMT
Thanks Nev, I guess the only way to be sure is to put the pair in their own cage without interference from other budgies and see what they produce cos I'm not sure if other cock birds are mating with her as well.
What type of budgies do you breed Nev, petshop or exhibition or both and do you breed with individual pairs per cage only or do you colony breed as well?
Thanks Lushen
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Post by Lushen1600 on Feb 26, 2012 10:37:18 GMT
Hi just a quick update, Pair 1 in Nestbox 1 now has 3 eggs, but the mother hasn't started incubating yet, will keep you guys updated on the progress. Also noticed that there are the hens feathers in the box, what would be the reason for this? Thanks Lushen Attachments:
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Feb 26, 2012 10:40:06 GMT
Hi Sydney since there are opposing views on the use of ivermectin during breeding I'm gonna treat her with petroleum jelly again and once she is done hatching and rearing this clutch, I will then treat her with ivermectin Thanks Lushen It can effect other birds and chicks in the aviary.
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Feb 26, 2012 10:44:35 GMT
Hi just a quick update, Pair 1 in Nestbox 1 now has 3 eggs, but the mother hasn't started incubating yet, will keep you guys updated on the progress. Also noticed that there are the hens feathers in the box, what would be the reason for this? Thanks Lushen There can be two reasons for that. Budgies shed feathers normally but we don't notice that much. But when in a closed nest box, these feathers are very noticeable. Most hens remove chest feathers to have direct contact of skin to eggs during incubation.
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Post by Lushen1600 on Feb 26, 2012 12:00:08 GMT
Ok kewl never knew that, learn something new everyday, thanks Buddy for the info
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