Oct 7, 2011 6:05:27 GMT
gerwynmr2
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Post by gerwynmr2 on Oct 27, 2011 10:05:12 GMT
hi there owain opinions do count and i think these are of exhibition type the only reason for this is their size ,pet type birds are a lot smaller than exhibition type birds you only have to go to local pet shop to see this because they always have a mix of both so i would have to say your birds are probably a mix of both ,just because you donot show birds doesnt mean you don't have any show type in your aviary even the pet birds will produce a throwback as we say
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Post by barrieshutt on Oct 27, 2011 10:09:29 GMT
here are some more of what i hope to be my breeding stock for this coming year,same as before critical please a 2010 cinnamon hen i think she is a nice one,also mother to the chicks in pied pics , a 2010 spangle hen a home bred 2010 turquoise opaline cobalt i think already produced this beauty mother was 1 of the lutino's , , a 2010 blue pied cock with all his spots , a 2010 gren hen a big girl a home bred 2010 grey/green coock
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Post by barrieshutt on Oct 27, 2011 10:09:59 GMT
A nice cinnamon light green hen of Gerwyn's, major faults are shortness of mask and she tends to lay ever so slightly forward of the perch, this gives the appearance of a dropped tail.
I would use this hen ONLY with a cock showing a deeper mask and larger spots/
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Oct 12, 2011 12:52:00 GMT
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Post by nigelsstud on Oct 27, 2011 10:53:06 GMT
The big one is to accept constructive critiscism I was going extend our new set up in a certain way but a friend came down and basically forced my hand into a different design I have to admit now its nearly finished he was 100% right. I have pulled my old Guru out of the cupboard he gave up after 40 years about 5 years ago through family commitments he wont go back into the hobby but is coming to cast an eye over my pairing plans
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Post by barrieshutt on Oct 27, 2011 10:55:58 GMT
The big one is to accept constructive critiscism I was going extend our new set up in a certain way but a friend came down and basically forced my hand into a different design I have to admit now its nearly finished he was 100% right. I have pulled my old Guru out of the cupboard he gave up after 40 years about 5 years ago through family commitments he wont go back into the hobby but is coming to cast an eye over my pairing plans Welcome Nigel
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Apr 20, 2024 11:37:15 GMT
owain20
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Post by owain20 on Oct 27, 2011 11:21:20 GMT
Gerwyn i know my opinion doesnt count but here it is, they do not look like show birds. I have birds exactly the same and i dont breed show birds or show, and my birds are classed as pet birds. Who classes your birds as pets Owain ? Because you don't show does not in any way mean you do not have the potential stock to breed show birds. I could breed them from what i have if i wanted to Barrie, it would take years if i wanted to but showing comes after breeding the birds, some people prefer to show birds. This year i have bred bigger birds than last year so i am producing better birds each year. By using spangles has improved the birds for some reason barrie?
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Apr 20, 2024 11:37:15 GMT
owain20
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Post by owain20 on Oct 27, 2011 11:30:06 GMT
This bird was bred from my light green spangle cock and a blue normal hen, i like this bird only because of the size of his spots.
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Apr 20, 2024 11:37:15 GMT
owain20
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Post by owain20 on Oct 27, 2011 11:32:30 GMT
This bird is a brother to the above grey cock, he has the same as his brother good spots but he is alot better. this picture is old.
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Apr 20, 2024 11:37:15 GMT
owain20
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Post by owain20 on Oct 27, 2011 11:45:03 GMT
When i manage to get into the shed ill photograph more and get them on the thread there is better.
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Oct 7, 2011 6:05:27 GMT
gerwynmr2
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Post by gerwynmr2 on Oct 27, 2011 12:09:30 GMT
like the grey owain nicely spotted bit narrow in the head mask needs to be deeper ,thats the opinion of a total beginner mind regards gerwynmr2
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Post by barrieshutt on Oct 27, 2011 12:19:51 GMT
Who classes your birds as pets Owain ? Because you don't show does not in any way mean you do not have the potential stock to breed show birds. There are some super birds hidden away in spangles Owain , you never know what will pop out. I could breed them from what i have if i wanted to Barrie, it would take years if i wanted to but showing comes after breeding the birds, some people prefer to show birds. This year i have bred bigger birds than last year so i am producing better birds each year. By using spangles has improved the birds for some reason barrie?
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Post by barrieshutt on Oct 27, 2011 12:20:43 GMT
Yes they have BB but i cannot get permission to post them . Killjoys. Is education not part of their charter? not with these guys
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Post by barrieshutt on Oct 27, 2011 12:23:56 GMT
The spots will only become bigger if the feathers are larger, the head feather needs improving Owain, a wider head will come with a wider shoulder, a wider shoulder will carry a better mask and spots.
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Post by barrieshutt on Oct 27, 2011 12:27:46 GMT
The ideal hen would be identical to the cock in all respects with the exception of the head which would have less frontal rise. The budgerigar standard of perfection used when judging the birds also should be taken into consideration by the exhibitors,do you expect to win with birds out of condition,missing primary flights,one tail feather,a missing spot or no deportment,well do you? The Budgerigar Society also drew up a scale of points for each variety,another guide for the judge and exhibitors,each variety can be awarded 35 points maximum for size,shape balance and deportment,they can achieve up to 25 points for size and shape of head,including masks and where applicable spots.The colour of the bird can then be awarded up to 15 points with the exception of inos,double factor spangles,yellows and dark eyed clears which can be awarded 40 points ,this is due to the fact they can win no points for variety markings,depth and clarity of colour are very important. Each variety of budgerigar can be awarded 25 points for the markings.Recessive pieds include points for contrast of colour and variegation and the percent of wing markings.The crests variety markings also include points for the shape and quality of the crest.Each exhibit can achieve up to 100 points,remember points make prizes. Birds displaying 2 major faults will not be allowed to win anything other than a class win ( effective from 2009) Birds displaying 1 major fault will not be able to win a class or a major award ( effective fron 2012 ) In a class where all birds display 1 major fault no first prize will be awarded ( effective from 2012) Colour dots,Section awards and Certificates of merit are considered Major Awards
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Apr 20, 2024 11:37:15 GMT
owain20
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Post by owain20 on Oct 27, 2011 13:18:40 GMT
like the grey owain nicely spotted bit narrow in the head mask needs to be deeper ,thats the opinion of a total beginner mind regards gerwynmr2 Thats the kind of bird i like, its personal preference. I just loved breeding them, it wasnt about breeding champions for me. They are no show birds, never will be. Just good healthy budgies.
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