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Post by Hezz on Dec 1, 2013 0:55:24 GMT
starrymist ... Turn your hand over more, so that your little finger is top-most. It is a little awkward but you'll get there. Once he is on your little finger you can turn your wrist back to a more comfortable position and try wrapping you fingers around him ..... but mostly it is the thumb doing the work from then on. OP, this sounds like great news for you and Joey. If I need to move them a larger distance I do like to have my other hand free to use as a blocker ..... they are not so much being held as being contained.
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Post by nettles on Dec 1, 2013 4:51:12 GMT
Maybe Marge was watching over your shoulder. Probably thinking something like how silly are those three? I'd much rather she thought it looked fun to be so well behaved!
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Post by nettles on Dec 1, 2013 4:52:53 GMT
Wel I had a go at your method this afternoon, Hezz. I expected Joey to take flight when I presented my cupped hand, but no he stepped up on to my little finger. My thumb was well away from him but all my fingers were loosely wrapped around him. Only when I brought my thumb into contact with him did he climb up through the hole. Not in a panic, so if I had wanted I could have kept hold of him. I could only do such an action if he was in the right position to begin with. Progress all the same. Well done you two! Joey is doing great
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Post by OP on Dec 1, 2013 8:17:36 GMT
Thank you. I will try again when I have Joey out of the cage as it is impossible to have both hands inside the cage at the same time. I would imagine that he would be able to wiggle out of quite a small hole if he felt threatened, and all the writings do stress not to hold a budgie tight across their chest. I feel that to do all of these things like finger training and taking hold of a budgie requires the person to be positive about the action. I find that if I present my finger gingerly, Joey hops off somewhere else, but if I present the finger in a positive manner, not rapidly, he will climb on before I can utter a word. What I am trying to say is that your method of 'capture', for want of a better word, would require the same positive action. This positiveness is portrayed in the video clip I feel, Hezz.
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Post by Hezz on Dec 1, 2013 10:00:51 GMT
I call it "containment" OP, rather than capture. Once I have them out of the cage and have to carry them any distance, I use my other hand in front of their faces, so they don't see a great gaping hole for them to escape to, and they tend to settle a little more. It is quite easy to check a few things of the bird like this without having to hold them tight. When they are held still, there is still the wriggle and squiggle to get free ...... expect that, but if you need to, for example give meds, have everything ready beforehand and make the event and the time it takes as short and sweet as possible and have something close on hand as a sweetener, such as millet. Positivity, calmness, surety, for sure your moods are reflected by your actions. But you can trick them to a certain extent. Think positive, act positive and you can trick them into thinking you do actually know what you are doing, hee hee.
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Post by birdguhl on Dec 1, 2013 10:18:42 GMT
Well done, OP - the pace of Joey's progress is really speeding up.
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Post by OP on Dec 1, 2013 12:38:15 GMT
Thank you Birdguhl, but I am having to learn a lot from Joey. Yes, when I look back to when he came into my life he has certainly come a long way. It has taken time, but it is coming through now. This thread has certainly been of immense help to me and hopefully others that care to read and absorb the wealth of knowledge you have put into it, Hezz. 'Containment' is a better word than capture, the word I was looking for at the time.
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Post by ffiscool on Dec 1, 2013 12:41:15 GMT
Joey is a fab example of patience, yours in his case
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Post by Shirls on Dec 1, 2013 16:56:40 GMT
Wel I had a go at your method this afternoon, Hezz. I expected Joey to take flight when I presented my cupped hand, but no he stepped up on to my little finger. My thumb was well away from him but all my fingers were loosely wrapped around him. Only when I brought my thumb into contact with him did he climb up through the hole. Not in a panic, so if I had wanted I could have kept hold of him. I could only do such an action if he was in the right position to begin with. Progress all the same. Oh well done OP, you clever clogs and really clever Joey. I tried it with mine and they just don't wanna know!! I shall keep trying tho.
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Post by phoebe on Dec 1, 2013 19:03:38 GMT
When I was a child (very long ago) I had budgies and it was that easy. Now I don't get it, my birds are totally wild. I have three cats and diminished eyesight and also probably really bad reflexes since my stroke. This video looks kind of miraculous to me. I started to think only children could tame budgies that well. Amazing job!
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Post by starrymist on Dec 1, 2013 19:28:52 GMT
Thanks Hezz, I'll give that a go, not been up to trying today.
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Post by LynM on Dec 1, 2013 22:37:40 GMT
Brilliant very helpful
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Post by Hezz on Dec 3, 2013 1:48:35 GMT
Thank you Birdguhl, but I am having to learn a lot from Joey. Yes, when I look back to when he came into my life he has certainly come a long way. It has taken time, but it is coming through now. This thread has certainly been of immense help to me and hopefully others that care to read and absorb the wealth of knowledge you have put into it, Hezz. 'Containment' is a better word than capture, the word I was looking for at the time. Thanks, OP. I appreciate that. Glad Joey has managed to "educate' you as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 9:44:22 GMT
They are so well behaved My bird Sky sees the whole thing as a play fight, my husband is able to catch him cos he locks his beak onto husbands finger! That's exactly how my boyfriend catches Munchy! I need to rearrange the cage to do this but I tried briefly earlier. Munchy stepped onto my palm rather than my finger, but he was more interested in coming out of the cage anyway. And then he threatened my palm twice and whapped it with his beak but I'd been mentally preparing myself for that and was just thinking "Try it, mister, and nothing is going to change." So i waited and then removed my hand when he lost interest in attacking it. Slowly and steadily, and maybe one day this will work. I need to build my confidence up in putting my hand near him, too, and he needs to accept it without feeling the need to attack me.
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Post by starrymist on Jan 2, 2014 14:08:39 GMT
I've been doing this when I can, no more than once a day though, Brodie mostly will calmly sit on my little finger with my other fingers curled round but not touching him until 2days ago when I actually was able to touch him v v lightly with them, he was fine! We did LOTS of winking which does help. Yesterday wasn't quite so good, he was fine initially but then had a wee OMG moment. It's slow but already this is way more than I could ever do with Misty, thanks Hezz!
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