what is Smokey's mutation?

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what is Smokey's mutation? Feb 12, 2014 2:11:27 GMT

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Post by tiffandsmokey on Feb 12, 2014 2:11:27 GMT

I'm relatively new to budgies and I've had my lovely Smokey for a few weeks now, I got him from a local pet shop and he's settling in nicely and is a happy little fellow but I always find myself endlessly searching the internet to find out his mutation!

I believe he is either violet or cobalt as his main colourings are like a mauve or purple-y blue. It doesn't end there though, I'm sure that his mutation is not as simple as just being violet or cobalt as he has the purple-y blue colour in his wings, as well as having lots of white in his wings and tail. (You can probably all guess I'm new to budgies with my descriptions hehehe) I'm guessing he could perhaps be either spangled or opaline, or even greywing or clearwing too (the tips of his wings are a creamy white colour) but I can't be sure, as again I'm too much of a novice! All I'm sure of is that his markings are not what I have seen before!

I will include photos of Smokey with and without flash and hopefully one of you guys will be able to help me

Thanks in advance

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Post by Marianne Marlow on Feb 12, 2014 8:47:34 GMT

Wonder if he's the same as my Basil?

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Nov 25, 2011 18:33:28 GMT samwiseg Staff Member Bird Fanatic Posts: 15,141	what is Smokey's mutation? Feb 12, 2014 8:52:03 GMT tiffandsmokey likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by samwiseg on Feb 12, 2014 8:52:03 GMT I'd take a punt at sky blue spangle....and what a beauty Smokie is
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what is Smokey's mutation? Feb 12, 2014 9:47:20 GMT tiffandsmokey likes this

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Post by Hezz on Feb 12, 2014 9:47:20 GMT

The photos are not very good, sorry, but based on these I will guess at a cobalt opaline spangle. Better, more focused photos would be good. Plus photos following BB's directions regarding photos for mutations will be a big help too.

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Jun 2, 2024 4:03:41 GMT Deleted Posts: 0	what is Smokey's mutation? Feb 12, 2014 15:38:54 GMT tiffandsmokey likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2014 15:38:54 GMT I agree with the opaline spangle (double factor? or are my eyes just going crazy), but the body colour isn't really clear enough to identify.
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Feb 10, 2014 0:31:46 GMT tiffandsmokey Brand New Budgie :) Posts: 23	what is Smokey's mutation? Feb 12, 2014 15:40:39 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by tiffandsmokey on Feb 12, 2014 15:40:39 GMT Okay thanks I will post some clearer photos once I take them
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Jul 7, 2013 17:32:38 GMT ffiscool King of the Budgie Stud Posts: 15,559	what is Smokey's mutation? Feb 12, 2014 17:34:10 GMT tiffandsmokey likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by ffiscool on Feb 12, 2014 17:34:10 GMT I don't have a clue other than he is beautiful

Oct 6, 2011 14:24:40 GMT Gaile Senior Spangle Posts: 1,460	what is Smokey's mutation? Feb 12, 2014 19:49:20 GMT Moogie, marleen4, and 2 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Gaile on Feb 12, 2014 19:49:20 GMT not a spangle......opaline cobalt/violet dilute this is a opaline sky dilute
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Oct 6, 2011 14:24:40 GMT Gaile Senior Spangle Posts: 1,460	what is Smokey's mutation? Feb 12, 2014 20:41:44 GMT tiffandsmokey likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Gaile on Feb 12, 2014 20:41:44 GMT thanks she was, I sold her 2weeks ago x

Feb 10, 2014 0:31:46 GMT tiffandsmokey Brand New Budgie :) Posts: 23	what is Smokey's mutation? Feb 12, 2014 23:48:10 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by tiffandsmokey on Feb 12, 2014 23:48:10 GMT Thanks for the replies everyone
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Oct 7, 2011 20:21:12 GMT BudgiesBuddy King of the Budgie Stud Posts: 18,009	what is Smokey's mutation? Feb 13, 2014 4:06:27 GMT tiffandsmokey likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by BudgiesBuddy on Feb 13, 2014 4:06:27 GMT Guide for Posting Pictures for Mutations
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Nov 25, 2011 18:33:28 GMT samwiseg Staff Member Bird Fanatic Posts: 15,141	what is Smokey's mutation? Feb 13, 2014 9:16:42 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by samwiseg on Feb 13, 2014 9:16:42 GMT Oh dear, I think I am going to have to do some swatting up on my mutations!
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Feb 10, 2014 0:31:46 GMT tiffandsmokey Brand New Budgie :) Posts: 23	what is Smokey's mutation? Feb 13, 2014 13:31:31 GMT samwiseg likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by tiffandsmokey on Feb 13, 2014 13:31:31 GMT Oh dear, I think I am going to have to do some swatting up on my mutations! Me too!
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Oct 7, 2011 20:21:12 GMT BudgiesBuddy King of the Budgie Stud Posts: 18,009	what is Smokey's mutation? Feb 14, 2014 3:48:38 GMT tiffandsmokey likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by BudgiesBuddy on Feb 14, 2014 3:48:38 GMT Pictures can sometimes confuse even the simplest mutations. But its very hard to tell about Greywings, Clearwings, Dilute etc, if the pictures are not clear.
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Post by tiffandsmokey on Feb 12, 2014 2:11:27 GMT

Post by Marianne Marlow on Feb 12, 2014 8:47:34 GMT

Post by samwiseg on Feb 12, 2014 8:52:03 GMT

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Post by tiffandsmokey on Feb 12, 2014 15:40:39 GMT

Post by ffiscool on Feb 12, 2014 17:34:10 GMT

Post by Gaile on Feb 12, 2014 19:49:20 GMT

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Post by Gaile on Feb 12, 2014 20:41:44 GMT

Post by tiffandsmokey on Feb 12, 2014 23:48:10 GMT

Post by BudgiesBuddy on Feb 13, 2014 4:06:27 GMT

Post by samwiseg on Feb 13, 2014 9:16:42 GMT

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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Feb 14, 2014 3:48:38 GMT