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Post by Billy's Dad on Dec 10, 2015 0:07:59 GMT
What amazing work you do. If you weren't down at the other end of the country I'd be knocking on your door to offer help tomorrow. I hope your night passes without any issues. Ditto.
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Mar 28, 2024 19:16:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 16:39:58 GMT
Well I was volunteered for night shift Again
Baby's needed feeding every 3hrs and are guzzling little pigs. Seems no problems with them.
Jacob the African grey, obviously a little confused, but responding well, I stopped for a coffee around 4am and Jacob fell asleep on my shoulder, he's gone through all of this and still has trust,, amazing reaction.
Little white Cockatoo is OK but in a constant attack mode (who can blame him) he will come round, may take weeks, months or even years, I can wait.
The Scarlet Macaw poor thing looks the worst, the vets have taken wing feathers and the stubby bitten off body feathers all away from him,, he looks like a ready stuffed chicken poor thing,, but this is mostly cosmetic, with a good feed up physically he will be OK he still extremely noisy my ears are almost bleeding, he will definitely have psychological problems, but again, the weeks, month, years of intensive training will eventually help.
Ring neck parrot perfect and in quarantine.
Archie in a very bad mood as I've not had that time for him in the last 24hrs, he cant understand why he is not on my shoulder with the other birds, sorry little mate but its for your own good. I can fully trust my own parrots, and they all know Archie, yip sometimes squabble but they are birds after all. But I can not let him near the new birds, both for safety and quarantine regulations. Archie does not really like females, so my wife is getting nowhere with him.
Anyway, all of the above birds are still under quarantine and veterinary care,
once the vets say so I will take over and start an intensive rehabilitation and re-training course on all of them, (except the babies,) they will have a long way to go before they come to me,, it will just be a basic hand and step up stage then re-homed. So that's it so far. Shewy
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 17:05:41 GMT
If I keep receiving mail I may have to start a blog lol
In answer to some mail, this might help everyone Question I received was,,, my budgie keeps chattering when on my hand and shoulder etc, he gets quite agitated wiggling his tail then he spits seeds or a sticky fluid at me.
Well this can not be allowed by birds, 1: he obviously likes you so much he is starting to think of you as a mate instead of his owner. 2: he is attempting to feed you and is a sign of affection gone just one step too far. ,,, not allowed ,,,
As soon as he starts, lightly brush him off you with a definite NO command through time he will get the idea that you do not like this, or use a diversion tactic by playing with a toy then treat him for doing that instead. Too much regurgitation can make your bird lose weight, and can cause crop infections if he eats it again. Hope this helped Shewy
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Dec 10, 2015 17:21:29 GMT
@shewbert I realise that most of us are adults here, but Proboards has a policy that states forums must be suitable for age 13+
so I had to edit a word in your post above. Just letting you know because I do not want our forum taken offline.
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Mar 28, 2024 19:16:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 17:48:40 GMT
@shewbert I realise that most of us are adults here, but Proboards has a policy that states forums must be suitable for age 13+ so I had to edit a word in your post above. Just letting you know because I do not want our forum taken offline. Been in and changed it, just me not thinking MMmmm looks like I took out another naughty word instead of the one you found, But I still think the word I used for Archie suited his attitude, still not speaking to me, is preening KoKo an albino Cockatiel at the moment and is totally ignoring me lol
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Dec 10, 2015 17:59:44 GMT
The M word that you used is fine as it's a biological term, the other one was used as a swear word!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 11:34:10 GMT
Today update
All the rescue parrots still doing well, no change with them, but eating drinking and very noisy.
Yay!!!! Floss finally stepping up, she has been a stubborn one to get started, hopefully biting will now start to ease up, she caught me nicely just down the side of my nail,, so quick with no warning, and hung on. Oh well one more scar to the collection lol Shewy
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Dec 11, 2015 12:09:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 12:09:33 GMT
I am so glad the birds are improving. I just wanted to ask how do you stop them biting @shewbert? My budgie Squawk is terrible. He goes for me all the time, even when I change his food and water. He's reluctant to leave his cage, and will just fly back into it when I do get him out. His cage is where he will lunge at me to bite He's not half as cocky out of it. He's a lovely bird. I did tame him a few months back, he would eat millet from my hand. However he's had health problems, so grabbing him to medicate him is why he's become untamed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 13:36:53 GMT
What age is Squawk?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 14:03:28 GMT
Firstly you will have to try and establish why your bird is biting. It could be: biting out of fear, biting out of jealousy, territorial biting.
The older the bird is the longer it can take to cure biting, so be patient.
If you find that your bird is biting, it is important to understand that it is simply protecting itself. For birds, biting is a natural instinct to protect itself as they are a natural prey in the wild. Their whole life is geared towards being alert and cautious to survive.
It may be a small bird, but it is stronger than you may think, the bite does hurt, serious bites will easily break the skin, hence it is definitely not acceptable, He now knows that if he bites you, you pull away, so for him this method works, he has to learn that hands do not harm them, in fact hands are good. So you have to do something good to him with your hands that he will like.
Try this first:
You need to begin talking in a soft voice to try to reassure that you will not cause any injury. Avoid eye contact and gently remove him from the cage with a wash cloth or a small kitchen towel wrapped around your hand just in case he decides to nip at your hand.
Once you remove him from the cage, gently pet his head and coddle him. You will be amazed at how quickly he understands your intentions!
If he does not stand on your hand to coddle him, wrap him gently in the tea towel and gently coddle and give him a soft and gentle scratch just behind his neck. (he will make loads of noise and fuss at first ignore this)he will start to enjoy being preened.
Try this for a bit, if it does not seem to be working come back to me as there are many other methods you can use, usually when a bird does its first step up command, the biting slowly goes away as he bonds. Shewy Do not do this for more than 15mins at a time, but 2 or 3 times a day is fine, always talking gently to him
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 14:24:38 GMT
Just a little bit about Territorial biting.
Some parakeets will bite to protect their cage. Many parakeets will do this instinctively and just a natural protection mechanism. Your parakeet believes the cage is a nesting site. Like most parrots, a nesting site can cause them to act aggressively to defend it. Just sticking your hands into the cage will cause a nasty bite.
You can deal with this situation by always ensuring that the parakeet is not let out of the cage unless you allow it. Many owners make the mistake of letting there parakeets crawl out of the cage as soon as they start exhibiting this behavior. If you allow this behavior you are enforcing your parakeet to become territorial.
If your parakeet wants to come out of its cage, you need to allow it to physically step up onto your fingers and only then let it out of its home. You should never allow your bird to make his own decision to come out of the cage. Many owners usually allow their birds to come in and out of their cages at their leisure; however, it is not advisable because some of the time it can lead to territorial biting. If I open Archie's cage he will not come out until I give him either the step up command, or come command. He has to know that I can enter his nesting area without him defending it, in other wards I am the boss not him, when training you can not molly coddle the bird, sometimes you have to be strict, the larger the bird the more stricter you sometimes have to be, (not harming or shouting) he lets you know that he does not like something, but you have to let it know at times that you do not like it either. Shewy
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 14:45:21 GMT
P,S, If your bird is fully bonded and starts to "attention bite" Just put him down, then leave the room for a bit,,,they don't like this and will soon know if they bite you leave. amazing on how quick they stop
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 15:32:06 GMT
Thanks @shewbert, I'll let you know how I get on with the preening. Squawk is a year old. I've had him since he was 8 weeks old. He's not frightened of me in the slightest. My view is that it is territorial biting, and that he is a bit spoilt as he knows if he bites me there is no consequence for him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 16:43:49 GMT
At 12mths they can go through a funny phase, they are fully grown now and at an age to start looking (and fighting others) for a mate. The cage is his nesting site so he will protect it and everything in it with a vengeance.
Every time you put your hand into the cage to get him out for preening him, have a treat ready, he jumps up nicely he gets a treat and a happy good boy, if he bites make no noises, take your hand slowly away from him and physically turn your back on him, even leave the room for a bit, come back after 10mins and try again He will soon learn that he bites you leave him
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 17:52:01 GMT
I had a visit from Amy who will be Floss's new owner. Floss has only started to step up in a fashion, a bit hit and miss, can still bite but doing fairly well.
Amy went to the cage, slowly placed her hand inside so that floss can get used to Amy. Low and behold, without any treat floss jumped on Amy's hand like she has been doing it for months.
No fuss, no screeching, no bites. Floss flitted on to Amy's shoulder and instantly went for her ear ring, I was a bit concerned that Floss would have a lunch made of Amy's ear lobe, but no Floss nibbled away quite happily for at least half an hour chitting away to Amy's ear ring.
So Amy will come for the next couple of days to play with Floss, get used to each other, plus I will be assured that Floss is not going to intentionally bite Amy.
If all OK Amy can take Floss, cage, toys Etc home on Sunday, hopefully they will both have a long and happy life together.
So another bird happily off to a new owner, I'll miss the feisty little monster, even though I have a lovely black nail from her last bite. Shewy
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