Aug 4, 2016 21:46:50 GMT
hannah7733
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Post by hannah7733 on May 31, 2019 20:32:32 GMT
The breeder thought these were two girls but since getting them home in better lighting I'm not so sure. What do you think?
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Post by Hezz on May 31, 2019 23:56:30 GMT
I think breeder got it right - two hens, from me as well.
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Oct 6, 2011 7:41:27 GMT
Marianne Marlow
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Jun 1, 2019 10:19:37 GMT
I think so, but the photos look a little overexposed in the cere area. Are the colours just as they appear in the photos?
If so then yes two hens.
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Aug 4, 2016 21:46:50 GMT
hannah7733
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Post by hannah7733 on Jun 1, 2019 10:45:03 GMT
I think so, but the photos look a little overexposed in the cere area. Are the colours just as they appear in the photos? If so then yes two hens. Thank you Hezz And Marianne, I took the pictures in quite bright daylight which might have bleached the colour a little. I'll add some more pictures below where they aren't in such a direct light. The blue ones cere is a pale blue with only a touch of purple, and definite white around the nares. However it's feet have a bluey tinge which I read can be a sign it's a male which is the only thing making me doubt the gender. On the white one the cere is a much more pinky purple with only a small amount of white around the nares and absolutely no blue tinge to the feet.
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Oct 6, 2011 7:41:27 GMT
Marianne Marlow
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Jun 1, 2019 10:51:27 GMT
Blue feet is definitely not a sign of gender.
Does the white budgie have red eyes? if so it's an albino and could be a male.. can be very difficult to tell the gender with an albino.
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Aug 4, 2016 21:46:50 GMT
hannah7733
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Post by hannah7733 on Jun 1, 2019 11:20:05 GMT
I cant remember where I read about the blue feet thing. And no the white one doesn't have red eyes.
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Post by Hezz on Jun 2, 2019 0:26:42 GMT
I'm with Mariannne regarding the feet colouring - nothing to do with gender. The second photo of the white bird, I'm presuming DF spangle if no red-eye, looks more male than the original photo. I am allowed to change my mind. DF spangles can be more difficult to determine gender, as well.
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Aug 4, 2016 21:46:50 GMT
hannah7733
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Post by hannah7733 on Jun 2, 2019 6:43:38 GMT
I'm with Mariannne regarding the feet colouring - nothing to do with gender. The second photo of the white bird, I'm presuming DF spangle if no red-eye, looks more male than the original photo. I am allowed to change my mind. DF spangles can be more difficult to determine gender, as well. You are allowed the change your mind 😉 and on a different note, is there a sticky on here which defines all the mutations. I keep hearing like pied and opaline, spangle, grey factor etc. And I've googled them but still don't really understand. Anyway back to genders... You're pretty certain on the blue being a hen but unsure on the white? With the white ones mutation will the cere still go blue/brown like normal?
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Post by ladybird on Jun 2, 2019 8:05:10 GMT
Does this help....this is Charlie at about 8 weeks...a DF Spangle, and he has bluey pink feet... So did his sister, but she had more white round her nostrils.
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Aug 4, 2016 21:46:50 GMT
hannah7733
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Post by hannah7733 on Jun 2, 2019 8:53:52 GMT
Does this help....this is Charlie at about 8 weeks...a DF Spangle, and he has bluey pink feet... So did his sister, but she had more white round her nostrils. Thank you. Mine has a yellowish head and its wings are an even paler yellow but doesn't show very well in photos and it's cere is a bit lighter than yours but a similar colour. Also he/she doesn't have any blue tint to its feet. I don't know if any of that makes a difference?
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Post by ladybird on Jun 2, 2019 10:34:20 GMT
Yes I can see the yellow tinge. Charlie has a grey tinge on his belly.. His mother was green and his father yellow, his sister yellow too. We saw his uncle too and he was blue...I find the colours fascinating. The cere on your white budgie does look very pale suggesting a hen, but difficult to tell on a photo. Your breeder should know his birds .like the ladies on here who are far more experienced than me say, it’s difficult to tell with a photo....
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Oct 6, 2011 7:41:27 GMT
Marianne Marlow
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Jun 2, 2019 13:05:12 GMT
DF Spangles do get cere colour Hezz, I've had two and both male, their ceres went blue.
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Post by ladybird on Jun 2, 2019 14:49:51 GMT
This is Charlie today, he will be five months old on the 10 th June....
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Post by ladybird on Jun 2, 2019 19:16:44 GMT
Better picture of Charlie’s cere...DF spangle , definitely turning blue....
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Post by Hezz on Jun 3, 2019 0:15:46 GMT
DF Spangles do get cere colour Hezz, I've had two and both male, their ceres went blue. ?? Marianne Yes, I know they do. Was just about to add, for Hannah's benefit that the DFS will get a blue cere if a boy. I'm still not totally convinced that this is a boy (or girl!) - I'm fence-sitting on this one. And yes, Hannah, a DFS hen's cere will go a crusty brown if she comes into breeding condition. We don't have a sticky that describes the different mutations, but a handy reference point is Cute Little Aviaries. Google what you are looking for, as some of the pages don't open from other pages, even though they say to do so.
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