Mutations for the little ones

[Marianne Marlow]

Would anyone like to guess the mutations of my new recruits?

Sorry that the photos are not great, they are scared of the camera (and scared of me, and their own shadows)


Iris




Colin, Billy, Daisy, Iris




Billy Iris




Billy Iris Colin

[Marianne Marlow]

Daisy

[Marianne Marlow]

I think Daisy might be a creamino. Her eyes are red, but she's not a bright enough yellow to be a Lutino.

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Marianne Marlow What colour are Daisy's eyes? Could be a lutino or a clearbody?

My ideas would be:

Iris - Sky blue, possibly with grey wing or a dilute factor of some kind, I want to say dominant pied because of the clear patch on the back of her head, but she has full body colouring and the markings of a normal

Colin - I'm not good with the greys. Light grey? Might need to see his tummy to see if he was a recessive pied? Not sure what his wing markings are like really. Are they present in small amounts, or very thin?

Billy - Single factor type 2 yellowface mauve, single factor spangle?


This is always harder than it seems.


Edit: Possibly. Or a dilute lutino? Has she had her first moult yet? I find budgies are paler before their first moult.

[Marianne Marlow]

Daisy's eyes are red I think. I really think she could be a Creamino after googling one.

I actually have no idea who has been through a first moult, only had them 2 weeks - I suspect that Iris may have as her eyes have a light iris ring.

Iris is a very light blue, lighter than my Lucy who is a normal sky blue. Apart from her pied patch on the back of her head, she has no other visible pied markings. She's quite odd, I have never seen one like her. Her makings may be cinnamon, do cinnamon's have lighter body colour?


Colin doesn't seem to have any pied markings on his belly. It's so hard to get photos as they are terrified of me!

Billy is definitely some sort of spangle. I googled mauve and it came up with a range of colours from blue green and grey, what does a mauve budgie look like?

[Hezz]

If Iris's markings are brown, she would be cinnamon. I think she is a dilute, sky blue. She has a pied gene (the patch) but isn't a visual.

Daisy - Creaminos can be anything from very pale to deep yellow (apparently) depending on the type of yellow face factor, but she is definitely more yellow around her head.

Billy is definitely a spangle, but I think he is a golden face (or possibly yellow face 2). That would give that colour suffusion through his body colouring.

Not sure about Colin - maybe grey recessive pied spangle?

[tweetiepiesmom]

They are all very pretty. Hopefully they will very soon become accustomed to you and show their unique personalities. Love that first picture of Iris!

[Marianne Marlow]

I'm sure Iris's markings are not light enough to be a dilute sky blue. Sky was (i thought) a dilute sky blue and I could barely see his markings, hers are quite prominent, just brown.

Not sure Colin is pied but I'd agree that maybe he is a grey dilute spangle, if possible?

[Marianne Marlow]

They are a complex lot aren't they!!

Wish I was a genetics expert. I also wish nev90 was still around

[Hezz]

If Iris' markings are brown, then she will be a cinnamon.

Yes, nev90 really is the expert in genetics. It is all the hidden traits, the innuendos, the "split-for's", those that influence one or the other but don't actually show up that I loose track of, especially as most of the time we pet owners don't know the linage of our birds.

[Marianne Marlow]

I do think she is a cinnamon. But she's paler than a sky blue.

Do cinnamons have a lighter body colour?

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Marianne Marlow Doing a quick image search of cinnamons, they do look paler overall.

[Hezz]

Cinnamons do have a paler body colour, yes. CAn be up to 50% diluted.

[Marianne Marlow]

Ah great, then Iris is a Cinnamon Sky Blue

[Hezz]

Lock it in, M! No more changes.