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Post by sweetpea on Mar 7, 2020 20:43:57 GMT
Hello all. Well, what a sight greeted me this morning. Blood, blood & more blood. Don't worry, we are all okay. I am somewhat confused over the cause. Apologies for the unpleasant photos I have attached. Basically, blood was all over the cage bottom, dripped & smeared. It had spattered on the floor outside the cage, up to 26 inches away (night-time cover only goes part the way down the front). No blood on back cover & only a couple of drops on the inside of the top cover. One drop managed to land sideways in Dalai's cage on his platform perch. Some drops are on the rope perches (lower to mid-level) but otherwise nothing on the perches. Probably on the bars too but they are dark so would not be obvious. Some drops on a seed trough. Absence of significant blood on the perches rules out a toe injury, I believe. Plus no sign of bloody toes or feet. Perry's wing feathers are bloody (see photo) but I wonder if he possibly had a (night) fright & may have fallen in the blood & smeared it. Otherwise, no other visible signs of blood on Perry. When cleaning, I found one wing feather of Lennie's that had splatters of blood on (see photo) but had that dropped before or after the bloodbath? Otherwise, no visible signs of blood on Lennie. Instinct is that it was a burst blood feather, but no sign of the offending feather itself. P&L are okay, though were extra quiet this morning (millet helped). They have been quiet since Dalai's passing - we are all struggling a bit here tbh, & this morning's scene did not help... If anyone has any insights to aid the investigation process, they would be much appreciated...      |
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Post by ffiscool on Mar 7, 2020 20:48:53 GMT
Who or what dunnit, indeed! Glad they’re all ok
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Post by tweetiepiesmom on Mar 7, 2020 22:04:20 GMT
Oh my, that seems like a lot of blood for a budgie! Glad everyone seems ok. Hmmm now who lost it and where - mystery indeed.
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Post by BloomCountyLover on Mar 8, 2020 1:04:50 GMT
Oh my, Bird Sherlock is needed for sure. Glad everyone is OK. My first thought would have been a blood feather as well but there seems no evidence of such. I wonder if night terrors played a role? There doesn't seem to be enough evidence on the birds...how strange. Have you checked them all up close?
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Post by Hezz on Mar 8, 2020 1:22:40 GMT
If there are no injuries to be noted, it almost has to have been a blood feather being knocked/broken. Looks like Perry's wing has brushed over a fresh blood drop - a secondary site, not the prime cause of the drop, and you see where long feathers have brushed the droplettes on the paper. Lennie's feather looks like a normal dropped feather, as in an old one due to be moulted. It is not the offending bleeder. So ... who has the most pinnies at the moment, L or P? You might have to go on a finger-tip search, feather by bloody feather.  Seriously, though, glad that both boys seem okay. |
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Post by criswell on Mar 8, 2020 9:20:56 GMT
Oh gosh. What a scary sight. I'm glad they are both ok xx
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Post by OP on Mar 8, 2020 9:24:28 GMT
Glad all seem OK/ The description of blood in a wide area would suggest it has brrn shaken from amouth part. I can't see some of the detail in the pics, but you really coulld do with finding the source. Krrp a good ;ook out for more fresh drops during the day please.
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Post by jellybean on Mar 8, 2020 9:44:13 GMT
Glad everyone is ok sweetpea, bit of a shock for you seeing all that blood though. |
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Post by Shirls on Mar 8, 2020 9:51:16 GMT
That is so frightening to come across first thing in the morning, or any time come to that. Glad all is well, quite a bit of blood can come from a blood feather source. Very scary though.
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Post by blue48 on Mar 8, 2020 10:06:14 GMT
Oh dear, how worrying! I hope you manage to find the cause but glad they both seem to be okay. As an inexperienced budgie owner I have to ask, do pin feathers often bleed?
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Post by sweetpea on Mar 8, 2020 10:22:26 GMT
Oh my, Bird Sherlock is needed for sure. Glad everyone is OK. My first thought would have been a blood feather as well but there seems no evidence of such. I wonder if night terrors played a role? There doesn't seem to be enough evidence on the birds...how strange. Have you checked them all up close? Yes, I did wonder about a night terror possibly causing an injury but no outwardly visible evidence on birds of an injury or an object they could have crashed into. They are not tame & have been extra skittish since Dalai's passing, so I haven't physically checked them. |
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Post by sweetpea on Mar 8, 2020 10:32:24 GMT
If there are no injuries to be noted, it almost has to have been a blood feather being knocked/broken. Looks like Perry's wing has brushed over a fresh blood drop - a secondary site, not the prime cause of the drop, and you see where long feathers have brushed the droplettes on the paper. Lennie's feather looks like a normal dropped feather, as in an old one due to be moulted. It is not the offending bleeder. So ... who has the most pinnies at the moment, L or P? You might have to go on a finger-tip search, feather by bloody feather. Seriously, though, glad that both boys seem okay. Thank you, DC Hezz for your analysis! Blood feather does seem to be the go-to answer. I agree about Perry's wing feathers looking like they have brushed over blood already dropped. At first I thought Lennie's feather could possibly have been attached to him at the moment of a burst feather, possibly pointing to him as the source, but on reflection, the feather may have just dropped earlier & just happened to be in the path of spraying of blood. Both have been moulting constantly (it seems). Lennie has problematic wing feathers that I am thinking go beyond a straightforward moult. (I'll post a photo later). With the spray of blood, I would assume there would be evidence of blood around the site of the feather, or where the feather was, but when they stretch their wings, there's no sign of blood underneath. And yes, seriously.... this could not have ended well... |
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Post by sweetpea on Mar 8, 2020 10:38:06 GMT
Glad all seem OK/ The description of blood in a wide area would suggest it has brrn shaken from amouth part. I can't see some of the detail in the pics, but you really coulld do with finding the source. Krrp a good ;ook out for more fresh drops during the day please. |
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Post by sweetpea on Mar 8, 2020 10:41:43 GMT
Oh dear, how worrying! I hope you manage to find the cause but glad they both seem to be okay. As an inexperienced budgie owner I have to ask, do pin feathers often bleed? I am not an expert, blue48 , but my understanding is that when a feather is growing it has blood at its base (blood feather). If that feather is knocked/broken then the bird will bleed. Unfortunately, birds can't cope with too much loss of blood so this can potentially have a tragic outcome. It is always a good idea to have something in your emergency box to stem flow of blood (cornflour, styptic pen). |
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Post by sweetpea on Mar 8, 2020 10:44:28 GMT
Thanks for all your responses everyone. In all my analysis of the crime scene I didn't really get across how lucky I am that both P&L are fine.
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