What mutation are my budgies?

[pij]

Hi,
In the links down below you have some pictures of my 4 budgies. It would be very helpful if you could help me identify their mutations and the possible breeding outcomes, especially the one of the little dilute boy. I’m not sure whether he’s a sky blue or a cobalt. Thank you very much!

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[Barry]

I'm new to this, but i'll give it a crack. I'll name the palest A, the other blue B, the green hen C, and the green cock D.

A: Dilute Sky Blue
B: Cinnamon Sky Blue
C: Cinnamon Yellowface II Dark Green
D: Yellowface II Dark Green

[yellowfacedviolet]

B is also a Dominant Pied...a Cinnamon Sky Blue Single Factor Dominant Pied.

It's impossible to predict what the outcomes will be largely because of the number of recessive traits at play in addition to the 'splits'--other recessive traits--that they might be carrying.

The only known quantities are that the mating of the dilute to dominant pied will produce blue series chicks that have a 50% chance of being dominant pied, and the other mating--the green birds--will produce chicks that have a 75% chance of being yellowfaced and they will be green series unless both parents are split to blue. Whether they will be cinnamons, dilutes or yet unknown recessive mutations is up to the splits we don't yet know about.

[Hezz]

Sorry, I see no cinnamon there in any photos. Maybe I'm going blind ...



(L) to (R)
Not sure - possibly dilute normal green ; normal green; sky blue dominant pied; and dilute sky blue.

[Barry]

Hezz, I'm particularly curious as to how you can distinguish between a normal green dilute and greywing (I agree in hindsight this one is not cinnamon) for the leftmost. I'm genuinely asking: is it because of the cheek patches?

Same goes for the sky blue: I could agree it could be a "brownish" greywing dominant pied rather than cinnamon because of the strong markings, but I'd love to be educated on why it would be neither.

[Hezz]

Aug 22, 2020 18:33:40 GMT Barry said:

Hezz, I'm particularly curious as to how you can distinguish between a normal green dilute and greywing (I agree in hindsight this one is not cinnamon) for the leftmost. I'm genuinely asking: is it because of the cheek patches?

Same goes for the sky blue: I could agree it could be a "brownish" greywing dominant pied rather than cinnamon because of the strong markings, but I'd love to be educated on why it would be neither.

I really am not the expert when it comes to these more subtle mutations, and I did consider greywing as a possibility, but the markings are too light to be greywing in my opinion and the cheek patches did seem to fit better with dilute as well. We can't see the tail feathers to use those as an indicator.