Problem with my Budgie - pictures

[Marianne Marlow]

Jun 25, 2020 23:01:03 GMT maciify said:

www.vetpharmacy.co.uk/small-animals-birds-flea-lice-mite-worm-control/pharmaq/ivermectin-drops-0-1-10ml-pd-960.html
Sorry forgot the link

Thanks so much for helping this poster out

[Hezz]

And a big thank you from me as well, maciify. Most of these sites don't show up for me when I go browsing; they all try to point me to Australian sites.

nikae, please let us know how you get on.

[nikae]

Hello,

I have found this (permethrin 1%) savacoop.rs/avisan-sprej-150-ml-avissan
Here is google translate for description:


It controls ectoparasite-taps, fleas, ticks ... on feathered animals. It also successfully controls all types of ectoparasites and other insects in cages, dovecotes, etc.
Active iodine effectively acts on viruses and bacteria, spreads the appearance of chicken pox, cholera, salmonellosis, mycoses, etc. AVISSAN is poisonous to bees and fish.

USE:
Apply directly to the skin or root of the feathers, press on the pump. Specially treat the parts under the wings, neck and chest. If necessary, spray cages and immediate surroundings.

ACTIVE SUBSTANCE:
permethrin 1%

- Does anyone knows if this would work to cure Scalyface?

Thanks!

[nikae]

I have found a way how to 1% invermectim turn into 0.1%. All I have to do is buy 1% and mix it with glikol, glicerin or plain alcohol in 1:9 ration.

[Hezz]

Permethrin, or pyrethrin (the natural product) do not work terribly well on scaly mites - apparently. I've never used it.

If diluting is your only option, please be very careful. Did you try the link that maciify provided?

[nikae]

I have turned 1% ivermectin into 0.1% and used one big drop on back of her neck. She is in really bad condition right now. The growth that was between her eye and beak has spread to her eyes so she is mostly keeping them closed now .
Is there a way to remove those growths?

[Marianne Marlow]

Did you order some 0.1% ivermectin from the link that the above poster posted?

Your budgie is very uncomfortable right now and needs proper treatment.

The ivermectin is not normally in alcohol it's in an oily type liquid (I am not sure what it is)

To remove the crusting and mites, the budgie NEEDS 0.1% ivermectin.

[jellybean]

Hezz asked did you try the link that maciify gave.

Please try and get the Invermectin 0.1%
If the mites are getting worse it must be very unpleasant for your little bird.

[nikae]

Yes as I wrote, I have used 0.1% ivermectin that I made out of 1% by mixing it with glicerin - advised by a professional.
No one would ship this chemical to Serbia, special licence is needed

I was just wondering how to remove crusting? I don't think I should use ivermectin directly on crusting - I used it only on the back of her neck.

So do I have to wait till medicine starts to work and wait for crusting to disappear, or I can remove the crusting by hand as well (the one between the eye and the beak)?

[Marianne Marlow]

You did not write that you were advised by a professional. What you wrote was "Posted by nikaeyesterday at 16:39
I have found a way how to 1% invermectim turn into 0.1%. All I have to do is buy 1% and mix it with glikol, glicerin or plain alcohol in 1:9 ration."

The crusting normally falls off by itself if treated by ivermectin 0.1%

I do not know if there is a way to safely remove it yourself. I'd be very careful as this could damage your budgie if you try.

For the budgies beak (being careful not to get it in eyes and nostrils (nares) you can smear a tiny amount of vaseline on it and this should suffocate the mites.

Jul 2, 2020 17:14:11 GMT nikae said:

Yes as I wrote, I have used 0.1% ivermectin that I made out of 1% by mixing it with glicerin - advised by a professional.
No one would ship this chemical to Serbia, special licence is needed

I was just wondering how to remove crusting? I don't think I should use ivermectin directly on crusting - I used it only on the back of her neck.

So do I have to wait till medicine starts to work and wait for crusting to disappear, or I can remove the crusting by hand as well (the one between the eye and the beak)?

[Marianne Marlow]

You can put the vaseline on her legs if she has mites and crusting there too.

[Hezz]

Leave the crust alone for the treatment to do its work. Once all treatments are finished the crust should fall off itself as it gradually loosens. Your bird is most likely to get it off herself by rubbing and scratching.

Marianne Marlow, the Ivermectin is suspended in glycerin which is why it doesn't dilute in water.

[Marianne Marlow]

Will diluting it, as the poster has done, work?

Jul 2, 2020 20:10:33 GMT Hezz said:

Leave the crust alone for the treatment to do its work. Once all treatments are finished the crust should fall off itself as it gradually loosens. Your bird is most likely to get it off herself by rubbing and scratching.

Marianne Marlow, the Ivermectin is suspended in glycerin which is why it doesn't dilute in water.

[Hezz]

It should do, if done properly. I don't know whether there are different grades of glycerin as there are with oil where one shouldn't be mixed with the other. Hopefully the 'professional' knew enough about this to be able to advise.

At least this little hen will be getting some decent treatment, and not for lack of trying from her owner. Luckily, it does sound that it is not a fine line for over-dosing with ivermectin; that there is a degree of latitude between being effective and being over the top.

[nikae]

Its looking good, she is getting a little better but I think I will use another dose. It has been one week since first dose. Should I use the medicine now, or wait longer?