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Post by Marianne Marlow on Feb 14, 2012 10:15:10 GMT
My Blueboy just had what I can only describe as a panic attack. Breathing so hard that he could barely move.
I put him in a cage by the window with the window slightly ajar ( I have screens on my windows so don't worry they can't escape! )
Calmed him down by talking and blinking.
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Feb 14, 2012 10:27:06 GMT
I am sure they can. Mine sometimes have but in the night though.
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Feb 14, 2012 10:29:55 GMT
What can I do to calm him down, he's such a stressed little budgie.
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Post by stace on Feb 14, 2012 10:33:12 GMT
Boo did this after his night fright when he injured himself. I think in Boo's case it was first the fright, then the shock of hurting himself. He froze clinging onto the cage, breathing hard. Just as we do when something like that happens.
With Blueboy, however, I know he has that breathing health problem, so it could be due to that. You know when someone has asthma and they begin with having slight difficulty breathing, then start to panic so it gets worse.
In humans, if you have a panic attack, you want to change the mix of oxygen and co2 your are breathing in to calm down - done by breathing in and out into a paper bag until the panic eases.
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Feb 14, 2012 10:36:26 GMT
Thanks Stace. Yes this is why I put him by the window. It was the quickest way I could think of getting some air to him.
It is very much like he has asthma.
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Feb 14, 2012 10:40:03 GMT
Stace has hit the nail on the head
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Post by Rachael Kellett on Feb 14, 2012 16:15:54 GMT
Poor Blue boy, how is he doing now Marianne? I have a budgie in the aviary, Iggy, that seems to have panic attacks, I have had him since he was approx 3 months old and he has always done it. He pants a lot when I first go into the aviary and he used to do a manic twitching thing with his wings but that has since stopped. All I can suggest is making sure he can get fresh air and give him some peace and quiet away from the others, maybe pop him into the cage and partly cover the cage until he is back to his old self
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Feb 14, 2012 18:05:16 GMT
He's still stressed out, neck stretching and making little pathetic squeaking noises. I am wondering if the vet got it wrong and that he does have an iodine deficiency.
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Post by stace on Feb 14, 2012 22:21:01 GMT
If you can, video him and post up.
With Blueboy, I suspect it's related to his breathing problem and there's an underlying health issue.
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Feb 14, 2012 22:53:19 GMT
I took a video on my phone earlier on when i had him in the carry box beside me. i will post it in the morning.
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Post by Hezz on Feb 15, 2012 1:08:35 GMT
Boo did this after his night fright when he injured himself. I think in Boo's case it was first the fright, then the shock of hurting himself. He froze clinging onto the cage, breathing hard. Just as we do when something like that happens. With Blueboy, however, I know he has that breathing health problem, so it could be due to that. You know when someone has asthma and they begin with having slight difficulty breathing, then start to panic so it gets worse. In humans, if you have a panic attack, you want to change the mix of oxygen and co2 your are breathing in to calm down - done by breathing in and out into a paper bag until the panic eases.[/quote] Not quite true, Stace. Breathing into the paper bag actually increases the amount of CO2 you inhale, which doesn't help panic attacks at all, and can be detrimental for asthma attacks.....in other words a bit of a myth. Deep calm breaths, and concentrating on the breathing are more beneficial. Marianne, are you still using the nebuliser/humidifer on Blueboy? I wonder if the dry heated air could be affecting his breathing, similar to an asthma attack? I agree with Rachael's suggestion of removing him and keeping him covered a bit. Do you know what set him off in the first place? I would try separating him completely for a while, with or without a calm companion, and see if he calms down at all. All the other birds may be what is stressing him out...............just thinking through my fingers here............... what was his background before you got him? Just wondering if he wouldn't be calmer as a little old granny's budgie in a peaceful place. You do say yours is very noisy with them all going off.....
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Post by stace on Feb 15, 2012 3:57:17 GMT
Boo did this after his night fright when he injured himself. I think in Boo's case it was first the fright, then the shock of hurting himself. He froze clinging onto the cage, breathing hard. Just as we do when something like that happens. With Blueboy, however, I know he has that breathing health problem, so it could be due to that. You know when someone has asthma and they begin with having slight difficulty breathing, then start to panic so it gets worse. In humans, if you have a panic attack, you want to change the mix of oxygen and co2 your are breathing in to calm down - done by breathing in and out into a paper bag until the panic eases.[/quote] Not quite true, Stace. Breathing into the paper bag actually increases the amount of CO2 you inhale, which doesn't help panic attacks at all, and can be detrimental for asthma attacks.....in other words a bit of a myth. Deep calm breaths, and concentrating on the breathing are more beneficial. Marianne, are you still using the nebuliser/humidifer on Blueboy? I wonder if the dry heated air could be affecting his breathing, similar to an asthma attack? I agree with Rachael's suggestion of removing him and keeping him covered a bit. Do you know what set him off in the first place? I would try separating him completely for a while, with or without a calm companion, and see if he calms down at all. All the other birds may be what is stressing him out...............just thinking through my fingers here............... what was his background before you got him? Just wondering if he wouldn't be calmer as a little old granny's budgie in a peaceful place. You do say yours is very noisy with them all going off..... My specialist advised me to use the paper bag when my thyroid was causing my breath and heart to race, as well as the calm deep breathing. It was to stop the hyperventilation by raising CO2, but you're right, not for asthma. Which is an entirely different scenario.
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Post by barrieshutt on Feb 15, 2012 5:13:22 GMT
yes they can Marianne and it is the biggest killer of budgergars
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Feb 15, 2012 8:44:29 GMT
Here is Blueboy in the carrybox - can you hear the squeak he's making?
He's been making that for months now, he does it a lot.
Here is Blueboy eating this morning.
Can you hear the different squeak he makes when he bends down to eat his seed, like it hurts or is uncomfortable?
Sorry about the quality had to use my mobile. run out of batteries for digital camera to record.
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Post by stace on Feb 15, 2012 12:41:44 GMT
My broadband speed is playing up tonight, so I can't view the videos that well at all. However, there is a squeak that does not sound right. I don't know if this is the iodine problem type squeak - never experienced it. Could it still be aspers?
There's definitely some kind of breathing issue. You are not imagining it.
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