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Post by Dan89+Popcorn on Aug 7, 2020 18:25:00 GMT
Hi this is my new budgie called popcorn, I chose him as I have never seen a budgie this colour can anyone identify the type of budgie He is?
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Post by Dan89+Popcorn on Aug 7, 2020 18:35:04 GMT
Please can someone Identiy the mutation of my budgie Popcorn? Looking online and I haven't seen any other budgie with the same colors?
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Post by yellowfacedviolet on Aug 7, 2020 19:03:10 GMT
Welcome to you and Popcorn, your Violet Cobalt Clearflight Pied budgie. And that happens to be one of my favorite mutations.
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Post by Hezz on Aug 8, 2020 0:51:03 GMT
My guess is that he is a violet clearflight pied.
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Aug 8, 2020 15:41:26 GMT
My guess is that he is a violet clearwing pied. Mine too, cos I already saw that yellowfacedviolet guessed it on another thread
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Post by yellowfacedviolet on Aug 8, 2020 18:46:10 GMT
You're a funny lady, Marianne Marlow ! Yes, this question has been posted on at least three different threads that I've seen and I answered the first one. Here's what I wrote then: <<Welcome to you and Popcorn, your Violet Cobalt Clearflight Pied budgie. And that happens to be one of my favorite mutations.>> I think Hezz may have meant clearflight rather than clearwing, which is a dilution mutation. I've done that before too. Whoever names these things should strive for uniqueness of name!
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Aug 8, 2020 18:59:31 GMT
Well you seem to know lots about mutations, so I am sure you're right. Yes the wing and flight thingy is complicated. You're a funny lady, Marianne Marlow ! Yes, this question has been posted on at least three different threads that I've seen and I answered the first one. Here's what I wrote then: <<Welcome to you and Popcorn, your Violet Cobalt Clearflight Pied budgie. And that happens to be one of my favorite mutations.>> I think Hezz may have meant clearflight rather than clearwing, which is a dilution mutation. I've done that before too. Whoever names these things should strive for uniqueness of name!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 21:05:14 GMT
yellowfacedviolet I am envious of your knowledge! If I could get good enough photos I'd ask you about my two. Popcorn is a very lovely looking budgie!
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Post by yellowfacedviolet on Aug 8, 2020 21:44:50 GMT
yellowfacedviolet I am envious of your knowledge! If I could get good enough photos I'd ask you about my two. Popcorn is a very lovely looking budgie! Very kind of you to say, @sillycat84 , but there are lots of folks who know a whole lot more about this than I. And I have blindspots when it comes to certain mutations and colors. For example I'm better with the blue series of colors than the greens.
Would be happy to offer my 2 cents about your lovelies.
And Popcorn is a handsome thing, isn't he. As I said in my first post, violet clearflight pied is one of my favorite mutations, along with violet dominant pied. It's the sharp contrast of violet, white and grey-black that I find so striking.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 22:02:28 GMT
It is a beautiful combination.
Although as I was discussing with Yuki’s breeder, I can’t understand people saying ‘it’s only a blue’ or things like that. He couldn’t sell Yuki’s sister so had to put her in the pet shop he works at. I don’t think there’s any colour of budgie that I dislike. I think there are some I’m slightly less inclined towards, but the individual budgies themselves are so much more than their colour.
I wanted a violet cobalt for ages, having seen one in the local market once, and then what looked like some back when I got Peri.
I can’t figure out how you tell the difference between single and double factors.
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Post by Hezz on Aug 8, 2020 22:12:05 GMT
You're a funny lady, Marianne Marlow ! Yes, this question has been posted on at least three different threads that I've seen and I answered the first one. Here's what I wrote then: <<Welcome to you and Popcorn, your Violet Cobalt Clearflight Pied budgie. And that happens to be one of my favorite mutations.>> I think Hezz may have meant clearflight rather than clearwing, which is a dilution mutation. I've done that before too. Whoever names these things should strive for uniqueness of name! I did, and have edited my original post to reflect that, in case it is confusing to someone in the future. (See what I've done there with my highlighting?? )
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Post by yellowfacedviolet on Aug 9, 2020 4:04:51 GMT
I can’t figure out how you tell the difference between single and double factors.
Is there a specific mutation you're referring to or just generally? If the latter, the single factor vs double factor matter is based on what the birds look like, or as geneticists call it, their phenotype.
In most cases it's pretty clear. For example, a single factor spangle, that is, a budgie who has inherited spangle from just one of its two parents, will look like a typical spangle with the telltale spangle wing markings.
A double factor spangle, a budgie that has inherited spangle from both of its parents, will have absolutely no spangle wing markings and will be solid white or solid yellow.
Perhaps the most obvious example if single/double factors at play would be depth of color itself. For example, a sky vs a cobalt vs a mauve budgie. They are all blues but what makes them different is dark factor. A sky possesses no dark factor. A cobalt possesses a single dark factor. While a mauve possesses double dark factor.
The notable exception I can think of off-hand, is clearflight pied. Single and double factor clearflight pieds are identical. The only way to know if one is single or double factor is to know what its parents were, or to breed the bird and see what it produces. If you breed the bird to a normal budgie and all of the chicks are clearflight pied, then that bird was a double factor clearflight pied. (And all the chicks are single factor, having only inherited it from one parent). If only some of the chicks are clearflight pied, then that same budgie was a single factor clearflight pied.
If there's a specific mutation that is puzzling you, say the word and perhaps I could explain it.
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Post by yellowfacedviolet on Aug 9, 2020 4:11:01 GMT
You're a funny lady, Marianne Marlow ! Yes, this question has been posted on at least three different threads that I've seen and I answered the first one. Here's what I wrote then: <<Welcome to you and Popcorn, your Violet Cobalt Clearflight Pied budgie. And that happens to be one of my favorite mutations.>> I think Hezz may have meant clearflight rather than clearwing, which is a dilution mutation. I've done that before too. Whoever names these things should strive for uniqueness of name! I did, and have edited my original post to reflect that, in case it causes confusion to someone in the future. (See what I've done there with my highlighting?? ) Yes! Lovely! Single factor violet? Meanwhile, there's clearwing, clearflight, clearbody, dark-eyed clear...couldn't they have found some other adjectives? Because what this is not is...clear.
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Post by jellybean on Aug 9, 2020 7:52:05 GMT
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Post by Hezz on Aug 9, 2020 8:18:56 GMT
I did, and have edited my original post to reflect that, in case it causes confusion to someone in the future. (See what I've done there with my highlighting?? ) Yes! Lovely! Single factor violet? But of course.
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