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Post by Marianne Marlow on Aug 23, 2020 10:55:18 GMT
I think we had this discussion a long time ago but I wanted to revisit it. Are pink feet a part of specific genetic mutations? In my opinion, Pied, Cinnamon, Albino, Creamino and Lutino all have pink feet. Discuss (with photos if possible)
Snowy: Grey, Dominant Pied, Cinnamon, opaline male(I can never remember what order that is meant to be in)
Custard I (recessive pied male)
JoJo (Albino hen)
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Post by ffiscool on Aug 23, 2020 11:13:04 GMT
I just love pink feet lol
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Aug 23, 2020 11:19:55 GMT
Me too, Bailey has pink feet too, doesn't he? I just love pink feet lol
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Post by ffiscool on Aug 23, 2020 11:23:38 GMT
Yes, he does. Ugh just remembered he let me kiss his feet. I won’t let myself think where they’d been lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2020 11:25:39 GMT
Munchy and Yuki have pink feet. Can't remember Peri's off-hand. Indie has very grey feet.
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Post by tweetiepiesmom on Aug 23, 2020 15:00:23 GMT
Both my guys have grey feet.
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Post by birdguhl on Aug 23, 2020 15:00:25 GMT
Tony Bones has pink feet! Luee (lutino) did as well.
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Post by yellowfacedviolet on Aug 23, 2020 16:08:45 GMT
Skin color--as in foot color-- is a polygenic trait, that is, it is governed by a number of genes working together, unlike most of our color mutations. As a result it is greatly influenced by pedigree going back generations. It works independently of color mutation UNLESS ino or certain dilution/pied genes are present in double factor, which override it and only allow for pink feet
The seeming linkage between some mutations and foot color has led some to assume there must be linkage for the rest of the mutations. This is not the case and explains why for two cobalt siblings, for example, one could have grey feet and the other pink feet.
Polygenic traits such as this are exceedingly difficult to breed for or against. Fortunately, most of our color and pattern mutations are not polygenic.
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Aug 23, 2020 19:43:34 GMT
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Post by yellowfacedviolet on Aug 24, 2020 3:30:04 GMT
Never. That would be a genetic anomaly. See my comments above about the presence of dilution genes in double factor. Why, do you think you have?
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Post by blue48 on Aug 24, 2020 9:34:07 GMT
Tony Bones has pink feet! Luee (lutino) did as well. Tony looks very much like my boy, who has grey feet.
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Aug 24, 2020 10:46:32 GMT
No, I haven't. But then I have only ever had two budgies that were cinnamon. Sorry, I misunderstood the part about dilution genes, I didn't realise that included cinnamon. Also, I don't think I'll ever understand the difference between double and single factor. I know that Blithe is a double factor spangle, but I don't know why or how. I just don't really seem to be able to take in the technical knowledge. Never. That would be a genetic anomaly. See my comments above about the presence of dilution genes in double factor. Why, do you think you have?
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Post by yellowfacedviolet on Aug 24, 2020 11:28:13 GMT
Also, I don't think I'll ever understand the difference between double and single factor. I know that Blithe is a double factor spangle, but I don't know why or how.
Single factor/Double factor simply means whether the budgie possesses one (SF) or two (DF) copies of a particular gene.
For every trait, a budgie inherits one gene from each parent. In Blithe's case, she inherited one Spangle gene from her father and one Spangle gene from her mother. Thus she is a Double Factor Spangle.
If instead she had inherited one Spangle gene from her father but the Normal gene (non-Spangle) from her mother, she'd have been a Single Factor Spangle and would have the traditional Spangle markings on her wings.
As a Double Factor Spangle, with her carrying two Spangle genes and no Normal genes for that trait, she can only pass on Spangle genes to her chicks, thus all of her chicks would be at least Single Factor Spangles depending on what her 'husband' has to offer.
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Aug 24, 2020 11:40:40 GMT
I see. So Blithe inherited two spangle genes, making him a double factor spangle and eradicating his spangle markings. Hey yellowfacedviolet . I ain't no GURL!
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Post by yellowfacedviolet on Aug 25, 2020 3:31:48 GMT
I see. So Blithe inherited two spangle genes, making him a double factor spangle and eradicating his spangle markings. Hey yellowfacedviolet . I ain't no GURL!
And as for you, Blithe, my apologies. But this is the 21st century and gender fluidity is very much in vogue now, so do try not to be so uptight about it.
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