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Post by mona on Dec 20, 2020 18:34:13 GMT
I would have to travel back to my home state (most likely in mid February or April - not yet decided) for my brother in law's wedding, for a week. We don't have anyone here to take care of bird. I had been relying on a good friend who stays in the neighbor city (3 hrs from my city), thinking I would drop them off there while I have to travel. Due to covid, she moved back home to work from home. There are neighbor but not at all experienced.. We are not yet sure, what we would do. But, We also looked up all rules for carrying pet bird in flights and by railway.. The flight rules for in cabin depends on the flight captain, which is risky. Trains seem a bit feasible though. Irrespective, while looking at flight rules, I saw they specify soft bag carrier instead of the regular travel cages. I looked some up..mostly these are for dogs and cats.. but a perch can be fitted there in one of the holes.. Would these be okay for the birdies as travel cage? I used the smaller cage while traveling here from my home state. If so, I would need to lure them in and get them a bit used to the backpack..
I brought them in the cage as shown in the pic below.. I don't have an actual pic. Are the backpacks safer than these regular smaller cages?
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Post by Hezz on Dec 20, 2020 19:50:48 GMT
From what I can see of the cage you used before, it has a separate detachable bottom and those are not good for transporting birds. Many birds have been lost due to the bottom becoming unclipped and falling off, due to a knock or breakage. These are a bad idea at the best of times but for travelling, I think you run too much risk.
Something that is made to do the job you want it for is going to be a much better option.
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Post by tweetiepiesmom on Dec 20, 2020 20:45:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2020 21:06:02 GMT
As Hezz said, you don't want a detachable bottom.
I was going to remove the grate from the bottom of my cage until I remembered that if the tray falls out there'd just be large holes at the bottom.
But you're looking for a cage that's one solid piece, with bars wrapping right underneath, or something like a show cage that is solid with just bars fitted in the front, fixed into the rest of the material.
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Post by mona on Dec 21, 2020 4:45:44 GMT
Thank you for the inputs. Last time, we traveled all the way here by car. I had them in my lap all the time and held the cage with one hand at bottom and one hand around while bringing them inside the house.. But, honestly, I hadn't put much thought into it.. The inputs here make much sense & it seems terrifying to imagine the scenarios mentioned here.
I can see these backpacks available here, without perch and food bowl. I have a screw on stainless steel bowl which I can fit there and work out something for the perch too.. Other than that, the small one piece travel cages which are available abroad doesn't seem to be available over here (importing from abroad would be too costly).. The only ones available are for dogs, cats and rabbits 😔 Still, I will check it once again..
If I travel by train, it would take around 36 hours to reach my home state..The train allows birds only in first class & I would try getting a personal cabin there..and train journey is very comfy without any jerks.. but there would be crowd at the railway station! Normally we would prefer air travel, but there are so complex rules and if the airplane captain denies the pet inside the plane, we have to send birdies via cargo - which is something I will not be able to do.. plus I'm worried if these little birdies will be able to bear the air travel experience.. Via car too, it takes around 24 hours (non stop), which will not be possible this time.
I don't want to put them in the commercial pet bird hostel, to avoid the risk of contacting disease from other birdies there, plus the amount of unhygienic conditions at such places I have seen!
I'm also checking if I can have some one take care of them here itself, while I'm gone.. I'm missing my mom a lot right now! 🤦♀️ I just used to drop the birdies at her house, whenever I had to go anywhere! Sorry for a long post.. just so confused and worried..
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Post by wocal on Dec 21, 2020 5:54:18 GMT
tweetiepiesmom Thank you for that link for that backpack. I know I am not the one who posted, but I needed one of these and they look great.
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Post by tweetiepiesmom on Dec 21, 2020 15:29:42 GMT
mona it does seem that none of your options are ideal but the train trip seems feasible. Between now and when you need to travel, you may meet someone whom you would trust to care for your budgies.
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Post by frankensteinsmother on Dec 21, 2020 19:09:53 GMT
mona, I bought a bird backpack very similar to the picture you put up. Check the hole size on it! I read reviews for the one I bought (it's Halinfer brand on Amazon), and it had pictures of budgies looking very happy on a rope perch inside in the customer review pictures, and I forgot to check to see how big the holes' size on it was. I now have a dangerous bird backpack that I'm going to have to modify if I want to use it for my bird. Just thought I'd throw that in there because the designs were so similar. I'll put a picture of mine up so you can see what I mean. The backpack tweetiepiesmom put up also has 1" holes on the top, which could maybe fit a budgie head (yikes), but they're not all over the place like the ones we looked at, so perhaps easier to cover with something? It still doesn't seem ideal (but again, better than the one I got lol). I haven't personally come across a safer backpack for budgies that doesn't cost way more than the $60ish I spent on my death trap (lol)--maybe it's worth it to buy a more expensive backpack with netting and less air/perch holes, or to go with a different shaped soft bird carrier? Good luck finding something that works!
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Post by Hezz on Dec 21, 2020 21:31:55 GMT
Not got a link but I have seen birdy backpacks that have a fully meshed front (or back, however you look at it). The only thing I don't like about the soft cages is that they are easily knocked around, bumped into by other people.
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Post by ffiscool on Dec 21, 2020 22:12:54 GMT
The train definitely sounds the better option.
As you have some time before you go, hopefully you might even find someone experienced who can look after them. Could you ask a vet if they know of anyone? Someone who works there might be able to take them.
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Post by willowsmum on Dec 22, 2020 0:55:35 GMT
Might be a crazy (and potentially very expensive) option but do you know of any pet sitters who would live in your home with your birdies while you are away? It would give you peace of mind that they are in a safe environment and although I'm sure they would miss you it would limit any other stress for them.
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Post by mona on Dec 22, 2020 4:20:57 GMT
willowsmum Never heard of pet sitters here.. Could check it out, but it would be hard to trust my home with a stranger, unless affiliated to some reputed company. I'm almost settling down for a train travel or road travel..since we would be gone for 15 days, that would be too much to rely on neighbor. I have a bigger cage that doesn't have a joint..all the smaller ones available have that base detachable. My hubby is telling we can travel via car, but I think it would be too tiring for him to drive, since I haven't ever practiced driving a car, though learnt it 🤦♀️ I'm going to call the airline customer care today to confirm on the clause about getting the captain's permission for taking pets inside the plane. If it's required, then airplane isn't the option for me at all. Either cases, I have to reach airport or railway station 3 to 4 hours early to get everything in place. The only problem is the railway station crowd.. We had been also avoiding trains due to covid risk, due to longer travel and exposure. Safest would be via road, if we could hire a driver instead.. Considering the Covid scenario, road travel seems safer than other means of transport.. frankensteinsmother I didn't think about hole sizes. Thanks for pointing that out. The ones that I'm looking at, are made for cats and dogs actually. The hole size could be bigger! I think I saw a few backpacks with mesh and more air flow, since I feel these might be a bit claustrophobic for them. On the positive note, I think they won't hurt themselves inside a soft bag. But, the point Hezz made also makes sense. Once I'm there, I can hand them over to my mom. They'll be safe there. If my friend comes back from her home place to the neighbor city, I could hand them to her. That seems unlikely due to the covid scenario (though the curve seems to be flattening here).
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Post by mona on Dec 22, 2020 5:53:03 GMT
This is the cage in which I brought them here earlier. Would it be okay, if I affix all the joints with cable ties to ensure it doesn't open? Or would that be a bad idea? The top side, side joints and the base also has some slits where I can insert cable ties to fix the cage bars to the plastic bottom Not trying to just use what I have. Just that I have really less options.. If still it would be unsafe, I wouldn't risk it.
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Post by tweetiepiesmom on Dec 22, 2020 22:34:23 GMT
I think cable ties would make it safer. Once you have them in place, jostle them and wiggle them to make sure the cage is stable. Do you have a cover that fits over the cage during travel? I tend to agree with you, 15 days is a long time to ask a neighbor to look after your budgies. Car would be the safest way to travel these days. Will any of the drive be through less populated areas that you might be comfortable driving?
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Post by mona on Dec 23, 2020 2:06:32 GMT
Yes, I have a cover for this cage.. Thank you tweetiepiesmom. We have decided to go via car, esp due to Covid. Travel via flight or train would put our parents at risk too, which is something we both don't want to do. I can avoid visit to my parents, but visit to in laws cannot be avoided owing to the wedding. It's a very small wedding though with just the family members. Still we are worried about transmitting anything to the elders. We can travel all the way via the highway (avoid the cities) and rest in the car at somewhere safe during the travel, so that we don't have to stay anywhere and can carry the food and water from home for the journey.
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