My budgies(mutations?)

[BudgiesBuddy]

Characteristics of Cinnamons:

A cinnamon budgie's bars, throat spots, tail feathers and wing markings will have cinnamon-brown color.

The color on the body can be reduced to a paler shade than normals but sometimes it can give them a cinnamony tinge.

The feet and legs are pink.

Cinnamon chicks have dark plum colored eyes which will darken to normal eyes as they grow. The skin of Cinnamon chicks is also redder than Normals.

[Marianne Marlow]

That's right BB. But Pieds also have pink feet, that is all I was saying!

My Eric wasn't cinnamon and he had pink feet as he was Pied.

[BudgiesBuddy]

Different Pied varieties can have grey, flesh colored or pink feet and legs.

[BudgiesBuddy]

Apr 26, 2012 21:02:51 GMT epo said:

Thank you BB !!!what could be the offspring of this pairing in the future?I hope I am not disturbing you

No you are not

Here is the result from Genetic Calculator. It's visual only.

[Marianne Marlow]

Apr 27, 2012 19:26:57 GMT BudgiesBuddy said:

Different Pied varieties can have grey, flesh colored or pink feet and legs.

do you have any pieds without pink feet?

[epo]

Thanks again BB!!!

One more question!!!if Lora is split to blue the chance of having a blue chick is bigger as Toby (grey green) is naturally split to blue too?Am i wrong?


Eric was a beautiful bird,Marianne!!!

[nev90]

Toby is an opaline spangle grey green

Lora is an opaline dominant pied light green female. If the markings are brown she is also cinnamon but she doesn't look cinnamon in these pictures

Dominant pieds and recessive pieds look quite different and I can never understand how people get them mixed up or have to ask about the eyes before making a decision

[BudgiesBuddy]

Apr 27, 2012 21:52:36 GMT Marianne Marlow said:

Apr 27, 2012 19:26:57 GMT BudgiesBuddy said:

Different Pied varieties can have grey, flesh colored or pink feet and legs.

do you have any pieds without pink feet?

I have one Dominant Pied with pink feet and the rest have darkish or grayish flesh color. I don’t have a pied with grey feet and legs.

Recessive Pieds have pink feet and legs.
Dark-Eyed Clears have fleshy pink feet and legs.
Clearflight Pieds can have both grey or pink colored feet and legs.
Dominant Pieds can have grey or flesh colored feet and legs.

The Color Standard laid down by The Budgerigar Society for Dominant Pieds allows the feet and legs color of this category to be blue/grey mottled, fleshy pink or a mixture of both. This is a winning Dominant Pied.

[BudgiesBuddy]

Apr 28, 2012 1:14:03 GMT nev90 said:

Toby is an opaline spangle grey green

Lora is an opaline dominant pied light green female. If the markings are brown she is also cinnamon but she doesn't look cinnamon in these pictures

Dominant pieds and recessive pieds look quite different and I can never understand how people get them mixed up or have to ask about the eyes before making a decision

I can see that you have agreed with me on the mutations of both birds.

I know Dominant Pieds and Recessive Pieds look very different and it's easy to tell them apart, especially in case of Lora. But if you are referring to my post, sometimes it is meant for the thread posters, to educate and encourage them to look for different signs and learn about it.

[epo]

Apr 28, 2012 5:56:28 GMT BudgiesBuddy said:

Apr 28, 2012 1:14:03 GMT nev90 said:

Toby is an opaline spangle grey green

Lora is an opaline dominant pied light green female. If the markings are brown she is also cinnamon but she doesn't look cinnamon in these pictures

Dominant pieds and recessive pieds look quite different and I can never understand how people get them mixed up or have to ask about the eyes before making a decision

I can see that you have agreed with me on the mutations of both birds.

I know Dominant Pieds and Recessive Pieds look very different and it's easy to tell them apart, especially in case of Lora. But if you are referring to my post, sometimes it is meant for the thread posters, to educate and encourage them to look for different signs and learn about it.

Thank you both about your educative and detailed answers!It helped enough!!
I know i look very fool but i couldn't say the difference between dominant and recessive pied!!!(I hope to manage it in the future!)

There are many newbies(like me)who find mutations harder than a Math course but also very interesting and charming!!!

[epo]

Apr 27, 2012 21:53:40 GMT epo said:

One more question!!!if Lora is split to blue the chance of having a blue chick is bigger as Toby (grey green) is naturally split to blue too?Am i wrong?

Could you give me your knowledge about it?

Is every grey green bird split to blue?

[BudgiesBuddy]

I don't think that every Grey Green is split for Blue. Grey is a color adding factor which is added to the original body color.

[epo]

Apr 29, 2012 6:51:42 GMT BudgiesBuddy said:

I don't think that every Grey Green is split for Blue. Grey is a color adding factor which is added to the original body color.

Thank you BB!

[BudgiesBuddy]

Apr 30, 2012 16:04:13 GMT epo said:

Apr 29, 2012 6:51:42 GMT BudgiesBuddy said:

I don't think that every Grey Green is split for Blue. Grey is a color adding factor which is added to the original body color.

Thank you BB!

You're welcome Epo

[epo]

I found the source of the misunderstanding!
www.budgerigars.co.uk/beginners/colour/

BB and experts look please at Grey Greens paragraph

''However, Grey Greens are split for Blue, so when you pair two Grey Greens together, you can breed Greens, Grey Greens, Blues and Greys...''