Crested Budgies

[Leon]

Hi
Is anyone here breeding crests at the moment?

Just wondered cus I've just paired up my crests and it's always good to chat with other breeders doing the same.

Thanks

[BudgiesBuddy]

I think no one other than Moheb. You can see one of his threads here. Moheb Nabil - Japanese Crests.

[BudgiesBuddy]

Maybe Barrie knows someone

[Deleted]

ryan only has one ......
iv told him to get another .....and try to breed them ...
there totaly lush ...but you dont see many at all....i dont no why ...

[Gaile]

not a good idea to breed crest to crest!

[Gaile]

this is a very interesting article from the old forum !!!

""Hi.. I'm a long-time breeder of a number of types of birds in the US (Massachusetts) and was surfing up information on crested budgies when I came across an old thread on this forum which discussed problems with breeding cresteds. As a breeder of MANY crested canaries (Timbrados and Glosters), I was fascinated to read that some breeders of crested budgies seem to ascribe problems with dead-in-shell chick mortality and with apparently genetically-defective adults to an actual problem with the gene. I would bet all four eyeteeth that the crested gene in budgies works exactly the same way as in canaries, which would explain some of the breeding problems seen in breeding crested budgies. FACTS about the crested gene in canaries: "crest-bred" birds CANNOT be split for the trait. They either have it, in which case the bird is a visual crest, or they don't. This would mean, wonderfully enough, that you DON'T need to use "crest-bred" birds to produce crested budgies in a breeding program. You can use ANY non-crested budgie, any nice American or English bird, and if it is bred to a crested bird, you'll produce a proportion of crested birds. This would not only mean genetic diversity and hybrid vigor, but good traits could be introduced from top show stock. If a "crest-bred" bird is not of good quality, there is no point in using it, as it can no more produce a crested bird than can any other plain-headed bird.

The only reason canary breeders use "crest-bred" birds in producing crested breeds is to preserve traits other than crests. For instance, in Gloster canaries, one wants to produce tiny, cobby, round, wide-headed birds whether crested or not (non-crested birds are called "consorts" in canaries). In Timbrados, it is the song that makes a breeder want to stick to purebred birds. But where crested budgies are a new mutation, there is no set breed type yet to preserve, so ANY good example of plain-headed budgie can be used to produce crests, if bred to a crested bird.

I'm convinced the gene works the same way in budgies as in canaries... why? Because any breeder of crested canaries knows you NEVER breed two crested canaries together, because the results are: dead-in-shell chicks and defective adults! Defects occur in the skulls in the progeny of crest-to-crest breedings: holes in the skull beneath the crest, etc. Sure sounds exactly the same as what many breeders of crested budgies are experiencing. There is tons of information on breeding crested canaries, since it's been done for hundreds of years.

It's the same as the semi-lethal merle gene in dogs.. one never doubles up on it, due to resultant health issues. Some breeders do it to produce spectacular merles, which can result from MM breedings. But so will infant mortality, deafness and small eyeballs. I would suspect that because of the similarity in inherent genetic issues, that the crested gene in birds is also a semi-lethal incomplete dominant.

Just an opinion!! I'm looking to breed crested budgies, and will use the tried-and-true methods of producing crests in canaries.""

I hope it helps a little x

[Deleted]

thats very interesting Gaile...
that means ryan can go ahead and breed his crested budgie with one of his other budgies ......
cool.... ..

[Rachael Kellett]

I know a breeder of crested budgies on facebook, may have to see if I can get him to join the forum

[Gaile]

Jul 6, 2012 18:43:47 GMT BudgiesBuddy said:

I think no one other than Moheb. You can see one of his threads here. Moheb Nabil - Japanese Crests.

Japanese crested look like they have propellors!!

[BudgiesBuddy]

Small cute helicopters

[Leon]

This is one of the pairs that when down this weekend...so hard to get a good pic, sorry.

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[BudgiesBuddy]

They are very beautiful. Best of luck

[Leon]

Thanks...fingers crossed!

[stace]

Jul 9, 2012 16:00:11 GMT Leon said:

This is one of the pairs that when down this weekend...so hard to get a good pic, sorry.

Tee hee! They are so cute. They look like they've got little Andy Warhol haircuts.

[Leon]

I see what you mean

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