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Post by barrieshutt on Oct 25, 2011 19:41:56 GMT
It amazes me how there is so much to give your birds but how do they manage in the wild? its all out there for them Owain, throw some minerals into a cage with a sick birds and it will dive right for it
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Post by barrieshutt on Oct 25, 2011 19:43:35 GMT
I think when Barrie says that "we are dealing with man made budgies", he sums it up very nicely. Anyhow, wild budgies have access to naturally occurring proteins and energy sources that are specifically designed by nature for their bodies. Additionally, they get calcium and minerals from rich soils of sandy riverbeds. Here is a very good article about “ Breeding Behaviour of the Wild Budgerigar” www.birdhealth.com.au/bird/budgie/wildbudgie.htmlYes show breeders have ruined a beautiful bird, and they continue to do so just look at the zebra finch. I dont give any extras like calcivet, i give cuttlefish, grits (oystershell, beach sand) there must be a point where your overdosing the birds. Man has ruined every domesticated species Owain
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Post by barrieshutt on Oct 25, 2011 19:45:58 GMT
Correct me if i am wrong Owain but were you not breeding exhibition budgerigars
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Oct 26, 2011 10:53:35 GMT
Man has also saved many species. Personally, I think British breeders has done some incredible work with Budgerigar over the last century or so. International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) has categorized Budgerigar as “Least Concern”. Thanks to many breeders out there.
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Mar 29, 2024 6:53:03 GMT
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Post by owain20 on Oct 26, 2011 20:52:55 GMT
Correct me if i am wrong Owain but were you not breeding exhibition budgerigars No Barrie never bred any exhibition budgerigars.
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Post by barrieshutt on Oct 27, 2011 13:03:37 GMT
Correct me if i am wrong Owain but were you not breeding exhibition budgerigars No Barrie never bred any exhibition budgerigars. I do believe the exhibition budgie because of its size needs more minerals and supplements than the pet budgie.
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Oct 7, 2011 20:42:55 GMT
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Post by hector on Dec 27, 2011 18:21:05 GMT
[...] Anyhow, wild budgies have access to naturally occurring proteins and energy sources that are specifically designed by nature for their bodies. Additionally, they get calcium and minerals from rich soils of sandy riverbeds. Here is a very good article about “ Breeding Behaviour of the Wild Budgerigar” www.birdhealth.com.au/bird/budgie/wildbudgie.htmlThat article was indeed very good! It just got me wondering: as it's common to try to trigger the breeding "switch" with artificial light source (imitating long days), spraying the budgies with water (imitating rain), but has anyone ever tried to make a green ambience around the budgies - imitating the fresh and blooming nature after the rainy period? (for example by painting the walls and everything that's possible to green in the room where the breeding cages are stored) Anyone ever tried to imitate the sounds of the storms too? (Playing it back from a CD or something.) Maybe the discussion of the above article would worth to start a new topic and I don't want to turn the Calcium topic into something else (don't want to be off-topic), but for now I will ask my regarding questions here. When they state that the breeding should not be started just prior the shortest day of the year. Does this apply to indoor breed budgies also? (I guess not; but it's better to ask something stupid than remain clueless.) In case of the answer is yes, then does it apply to the shortest day in the Southern Hemisphere's shortest day or to that Hemisphere's shortest day we live in? They also write in the article: "Autumn is the best time for the wild budgerigar to breed." "Spring is the best time for southern states (of Australia) to start their breeding season. "Are we supposed to adjust to the Australian seasons (as I guess even our European birds got these "programmed" in them) or...?
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Dec 28, 2011 8:30:16 GMT
Thanks Hector
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Post by stace on Dec 28, 2011 12:03:19 GMT
[...] Anyhow, wild budgies have access to naturally occurring proteins and energy sources that are specifically designed by nature for their bodies. Additionally, they get calcium and minerals from rich soils of sandy riverbeds. Here is a very good article about “ Breeding Behaviour of the Wild Budgerigar” www.birdhealth.com.au/bird/budgie/wildbudgie.htmlThat article was indeed very good! It just got me wondering: as it's common to try to trigger the breeding "switch" with artificial light source (imitating long days), spraying the budgies with water (imitating rain), but has anyone ever tried to make a green ambience around the budgies - imitating the fresh and blooming nature after the rainy period? (for example by painting the walls and everything that's possible to green in the room where the breeding cages are stored) Anyone ever tried to imitate the sounds of the storms too? (Playing it back from a CD or something.) Maybe the discussion of the above article would worth to start a new topic and I don't want to turn the Calcium topic into something else (don't want to be off-topic), but for now I will ask my regarding questions here. When they state that the breeding should not be started just prior the shortest day of the year. Does this apply to indoor breed budgies also? (I guess not; but it's better to ask something stupid than remain clueless.) In case of the answer is yes, then does it apply to the shortest day in the Southern Hemisphere's shortest day or to that Hemisphere's shortest day we live in? They also write in the article: "Autumn is the best time for the wild budgerigar to breed." "Spring is the best time for southern states (of Australia) to start their breeding season. "Are we supposed to adjust to the Australian seasons (as I guess even our European birds got these "programmed" in them) or...? Hector, I think you need to reverse all that for you in the Northern Hemisphere, so you work to the seasons that the bird is living in - not where it came from originally.
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Oct 7, 2011 20:42:55 GMT
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Post by hector on Dec 31, 2011 16:58:13 GMT
Thanks Stace! I will keep this in mind.
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Jul 11, 2012 8:17:03 GMT
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Post by Donna Lee on Oct 3, 2012 17:18:01 GMT
Is there a specific type of calcivet to buy? Or just any? I see on ebay there are parrot/hawk types. A little confusing.
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Oct 4, 2012 6:23:30 GMT
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Jul 11, 2012 8:17:03 GMT
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Post by Donna Lee on Oct 4, 2012 6:30:57 GMT
Thanks BB
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Oct 4, 2012 6:42:44 GMT
Thanks BB You're welcome
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Feb 4, 2012 22:25:41 GMT
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Post by outnumbered on Nov 18, 2012 15:50:47 GMT
Exellent post Barrie. I am still only considering breeding my two so this is very useful.
Oh, amd even wild budgies die and have health problems, nature can be just as cruel as man ;D
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