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Post by Captain Howdy on Mar 6, 2013 10:49:53 GMT
I am currently having to medicate Munchkin as a precaution. He is being syringed 0.03ml of medicine a day.
Last night afterwards he spent all night sneezing and regugitating his food, I medicated him around 8pm, he was still sneezing very early this morning.
He does sneeze occadionally and really hates the taste of the meds so does tend to regurgitate his food afterwards so I suspect he's not actually being dosed.
He will not take it off a spoon in fruit juice or on food so I have no other way to give it him unless I swap what meds I am giving him and do it in water but then I suspect he won't drink enough to get the dosage.
Any ideas on how best to give it him and is the sneezing normal? Has me very worried.
Will be emailing my AV soon anyway to get some more meds ready to pick up so if needed can swap him over the to water soluble but would rather not.
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Mar 6, 2013 11:06:02 GMT
I have only seen sneezing if the medicine goes into nose trails.
Crop feeding is the best way to make sure right amount of medicine has reached the bird's stomach.
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Post by Captain Howdy on Mar 7, 2013 0:25:13 GMT
He has his meds earlier, even trynig to give him fruit juice off a spoon caused sneezing, as perhe regurgitated the whole lot up afterwards.
Has been sneezing on and off but not as bad as last night.
Avian Vet has been emailed and I said I want to take him to water meds he is jjust not doing well orally. Also asked about the sneezing.
He was last treated with Ivermectin about 4/5 months back, I do them every 6 months.
Wondering now if maybe my room is too dry for him causing the sneezing, plus he isfinished quite a big moult so is a lot dustier than usual.
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Post by Hezz on Mar 7, 2013 1:29:22 GMT
I am currently dosing Smudge with baytril after a small bit of surgery as a precaution, and quite often she will give a sneeze afterwards, but I am not having the problems that you are with continuous sneezing and regurgitation. I hope you get some good feed-back from your vet soon. I agree, he probably isn't getting much in the way of antibiotics at all in this case.
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Post by Captain Howdy on Mar 7, 2013 18:34:14 GMT
Well took him to my vets.
We've decided to take him off the Karidox, and he will go onto Ornicure instead, this is put into water rather than orally.
However because of the sneezing and regurgitation we are giving him 3 days of no meds to see if he settles down as my vet think it is the meds causing the problems and irritating him causing him to bring his food up.
Then we'll start a 6 week course of Ornicure.
Meanwhile he gets to go into a steamy bathroom twice a day for 30 minutes to help him as well.
If there is no improvement or he gets worse he'll have to have a crop swab done, other than that he seemed all good.
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Mar 7, 2013 19:54:42 GMT
Hope the new medicine works. Best of luck
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Mar 7, 2013 19:55:10 GMT
Is this the one?
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Post by Hezz on Mar 8, 2013 0:56:33 GMT
Good luck with it all. That is quite a bit of forward planning, and a bumpy road ahead of you. Good luck!
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Post by Captain Howdy on Mar 8, 2013 9:36:28 GMT
Yup thats the one! Expensive stuff lol, however he's worth it!
Still sneezing this morning but wasn't as bad last night, had a couple of sneezing fits so far.
I'm wondering if maybe my room could be too dry for him and with the meds irritating him etc it's causing all the sneezing.
If the meds don't work the plan will likely be to take him and actually get him tested for Psittacosis to see whether he needs to be treated or not and if not I'll keep up the Quarantine on my room to stop him getting it from our latest rescue.
Very long story on that one lol but we took on a rescue we found out had it, not in the same room or anything but obviously same house due to the rescues condition so as a precaution I am treating the other 2 birds in the house whilst we treat Charles for it.
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Post by stace on Mar 8, 2013 10:32:05 GMT
So Ornicure and Karidox are psittacosis drugs?
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Post by Captain Howdy on Mar 8, 2013 11:22:33 GMT
So Ornicure and Karidox are psittacosis drugs? Yup, the Karidox is a syrup you give orally wheres the Ornicure is a powder you give in the water. They contain Doxycycline. Same as what humans get given for it, which I am currently on as a precaution so I can understand why Munch doesn't like the taste lol.
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Post by stace on Mar 8, 2013 11:26:36 GMT
So Ornicure and Karidox are psittacosis drugs? Yup, the Karidox is a syrup you give orally wheres the Ornicure is a powder you give in the water. They contain Doxycycline. Same as what humans get given for it, which I am currently on as a precaution so I can understand why Munch doesn't like the taste lol. I've been really lucky in some ways with the meds as my bird is okay with drinking them in water. He was on a series of meds over about two or so months, and I could sit him on my shoulder and say "Drinky Poo" and he'd drink. Fortunate really, because he's really super hard to catch up and even harder to give meds through a syringe.
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Post by Captain Howdy on Mar 8, 2013 11:43:02 GMT
Yeah I'm hoping with the water meds I can encourage him to drink it, if all else fails it can go into a cup and I'll 'drink' some he'll soon want it then! lol.
If he does continue regurgitating and sneezing though even on the water meds then he is having a reaction to the Doxy and we'll have to discuss further options if he does test positive.
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Post by Hezz on Mar 9, 2013 1:37:14 GMT
If you feel the room may be too dry for him either use a humidifier or some bowls of water around the room to add humidity to the air. It is easy enough to fix that problem.
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Post by Captain Howdy on Mar 9, 2013 9:50:45 GMT
If you feel the room may be too dry for him either use a humidifier or some bowls of water around the room to add humidity to the air. It is easy enough to fix that problem. We're doing the bathroom method to see if it helps him at all.
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