Jan 12, 2012 22:54:32 GMT
Nicola
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Poppi, Digger, Daisy, Mawson, Cleo, Casper, Romeo, Georgia, Melmen, Rosalie, Willow, Alice and Finn
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Post by Nicola on Mar 19, 2013 5:35:05 GMT
Thanks Hezz Do you mean I should find cheaper one online or in the shop? Nicola
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Post by Hezz on Mar 20, 2013 0:33:46 GMT
Probably both, lol. I think even locally your prices would be better than mine. But online definitely.
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Jan 12, 2012 22:54:32 GMT
Nicola
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Poppi, Digger, Daisy, Mawson, Cleo, Casper, Romeo, Georgia, Melmen, Rosalie, Willow, Alice and Finn
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Post by Nicola on Mar 21, 2013 5:35:27 GMT
Thanks Hezz Just a question,I made a list yeaterday of what I will need (like I said, I am trying to convince my mum I am ready to breed them, and maybe if she's knows I am organised it might help) to breed them. Here is the list. I know there is a lot, but I have never bred budgies like this before. Food Supplies: Cuttlebone x2 Millet Spray Trill Seed Honey sticks Mineral block x2 Containers: Tube feeder small (I just like to have a small one near the nestbox for when the chicks come out for the first time) Water and Seed container Cage Accessories: Calcium Perch x1 Wooden Perches x2 Rope perch x1 Toy small (don't want male getting bord!) Soft wood toy for hen Breeding Accessories: Nestbox Other: Zipties (extra safety for nestbox) cup hooks (nest box) Breeding Cage What do you think? I know you don't breed your budgies, but is there anything else I should include or exclude? Nicola
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Post by Hezz on Mar 22, 2013 1:17:37 GMT
nicola, I am going to flip this towards BudgiesBuddy and anyone else who may have done this on a small scale. sarah*glittergirl2212 is one I can think of, who has done this recently. I really have NO idea. But a wonderful idea to show Mum you are thinking of all the necessarys (did I see baby-raising formula there?). I hope someone with breeding experience will help you out. I am sure they will.
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Jan 12, 2012 22:54:32 GMT
Nicola
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Post by Nicola on Mar 22, 2013 5:43:18 GMT
Thanks Hezz. No, there is no baby formula there, but thanks for reminding me Nicola
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Post by sarah*glittergirl2212 on Mar 22, 2013 8:31:07 GMT
You need shavings for the nestbox and a tub of Kaytee hand rearing formula in case of emergency feeding, a grater would be useful for grating carrot/apple etc into the egg food to make it nice and easy for the chicks to eat. A spare nestbox concave is also needed, but I have 4- one in the box and 3 drying in the airing cupboard which I use in rotation. If I think of anything else I used, I'll let you know!
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Jan 12, 2012 22:54:32 GMT
Nicola
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Poppi, Digger, Daisy, Mawson, Cleo, Casper, Romeo, Georgia, Melmen, Rosalie, Willow, Alice and Finn
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Post by Nicola on Mar 22, 2013 9:02:04 GMT
Thanks Sarah I always put shavings in the nestbox, I just didn't remember to put it on the list as I already have one. We have a grater inside that I will use. Hand rearing formula I need to add to the list, and with the concaves, even when I clean the nesbox, I don't change concaves I only change the shavings. Is this alright? Thanks, Nicola
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Post by sarah*glittergirl2212 on Mar 22, 2013 9:38:08 GMT
I found when the chicks were young that their poops were very wet and the concave would absorb quite a lot of the wet part, so I would give it a hot wash and dry it out in the airing cupboard. I probably go over the top with these things though, someone experienced could tell you what would be best. Maybe ask BB?
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Post by Hezz on Mar 22, 2013 9:59:05 GMT
Most suggest having a spare, I do remember. And with our much drier climate, probably one extra would be enough, Nicola.
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Post by sarah*glittergirl2212 on Mar 22, 2013 11:09:35 GMT
Most suggest having a spare, I do remember. And with our much drier climate, probably one extra would be enough, Nicola. Are you in Australia too Nicola? I am indeed talking about what I did in the lovely wet UK, in winter!
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Jan 12, 2012 22:54:32 GMT
Nicola
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Poppi, Digger, Daisy, Mawson, Cleo, Casper, Romeo, Georgia, Melmen, Rosalie, Willow, Alice and Finn
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Post by Nicola on Mar 22, 2013 11:30:56 GMT
Yep. I'm an Aussie as well Nicola
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Post by sarah*glittergirl2212 on Mar 22, 2013 13:34:28 GMT
Don't know why I thought you were Welsh then.... typical of me though to be honest... I expect one spare concave will be enough then and dry in minutes- not a couple of days in the airing cupboard!!
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Mar 22, 2013 17:24:46 GMT
Calcium perch: Not good as droppings can stick to it which will end up in budgie stomach. Rope perch: Anything wobbly not good during breeding. Toys: Some cocks are so obsessed with toys that they won't feed hen.
Egg candler: Required. Don't buy it and use a custom made at home. Chick formula, just a little quantity for emergency only. Kaytee should be the last option in the world. Versel-laga or Zupreem are good. Wood shavings: Required regularly once the eggs hatch. Spare nest box concave: Usually not required if the wood shavings are changed regularly. But some hens don't like it so the only option is to change the concave every other day.
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Post by sarah*glittergirl2212 on Mar 22, 2013 20:42:45 GMT
I had the Kaytee as emergency standby if it was the difference between a chick starving or surviving. Fortunately I didn't have that dilemma. BB is right that the chicks should be fed by the parents, I'm not suggesting you feed the chicks,no way! Kaytee is not food from Mum after all, just a means of survival and most definitely a last resort. I had it in so I would never be saying "if only I had been better prepared they might've been ok". Versel-lage and Zupreem I've never heard of but if BB recommends them as better than Kaytee, have one of them as your emergency back up.
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Jan 12, 2012 22:54:32 GMT
Nicola
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Poppi, Digger, Daisy, Mawson, Cleo, Casper, Romeo, Georgia, Melmen, Rosalie, Willow, Alice and Finn
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Post by Nicola on Mar 22, 2013 22:12:19 GMT
@bb- We have a VERY bright torch already that I have used before and works. Ok, no rope perch, just wooden ones? No toys. No calcium perches, and chick formula. Would the Vetafarm hand rearing formula be ok? We are lucky enough to live in Wagga where Vetafarm is just around the corner, and I have never seen any other brands of hand rearing formula around. Besides all that, is there anything else I should change or add to the breeding supplies? Thanks BB sarah- Ok thanks Sarah. I'll have to make a new supply list! My other one was very expensive anyway! Cutting back a few things might take the price down! Nicola
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