Some kind of pied

[mousehq]

Hi!
After much googling, it is clear that my bird (pictured below, I think) is a pied variety.  She (just guessing) is mostly yellow, with green around upper chest and on the back between the wings.  Wings and tail are completely yellow.  I was trying to figure out if she is a dominant pied or a recessive pied, in order to figure out the sex more accurately.  I don't know her age, but we have another bird that is 3mos old, so we are assuming that once that bird is mature, this yellow one will also be.  

Currently, her eyes are all black, but I don't know if that is youth or genetics.  Her cere is a nondescript light color, kind of pinkish.  She has purple cheek patches, and pink feet.  Faint grey stripes on the head.  Is that information enough for anyone to know.  She appears to regurgitate food for the other budgie sometimes, and groom his (also a guess) head.  I don't know if that behavior description helps at all. 

Thanks!
mousehq

[weelouie]

I just adopted a cage full of pied birds (5 of them) and I'm still trying to figure out what they all are. I know mine are all young, in fact some are offspring of others. The father is a yellow face dark (bluish) green, not pied. Most look like yours except one cock who's blue and white. One hen has a turquoise rump but the rest are all green and yellow. From what I can tell, none of them have eye rings so far.

Here's the site I've been using to figure them all out, maybe it will help you if you haven't already seen it.
puppiesareprozac.com/budgie-parakeet/colors-varieties-mutations-genetics/#Pied_Mutations

[Hezz]

Definitely a pied, but what sort, we need a photo of the back of the bird, which I am going to say is male, going on this photo, but a better, clearer shot taken on macro setting would be of great help. So a photo close up of (his) cere, and a photo of the back of the bird to be able to determine mutation. Most of us are amateurs at this and need to view the whole of the bird to make a judgement.

nev90 would be able to pick it in a shot: he is the gene-machine, but a very busy man.

[mousehq]

Hi all!
Thanks for the tips, I'll have to take more pics.  I'm not a great photographer when it comes to things that are moving.   
I'll try to get the bird from the back, as well as cere close ups if possible. 
-mousehq

[mousehq]

Ok, more pics of Ophelia...taken from phone, so a little blurry.

[Hezz]

I am going to stick with male, although the recessive pieds are much harder to determine gender than most of the others. Whether he is a double factor dominant pied, or a recessive pied, I don't have enough knowledge to be able to say, sorry.

Anyone else want to have a guess???

[ffiscool]

I don't know, obviously, but I would have guessed a girlie - but I am often wrong on these guesses, lol

pretty whichever though

[samwiseg]

Nope Hezz - but correct on a pied

[Hezz]

Oct 25, 2016 14:55:00 GMT samwiseg said:

Nope Hezz - but correct on a pied

Too easy, Sam! (Shakes her head)

[nev90]

Your bird is an opaline cinnamon dominant pied female. As she has very few wing markings the dominant pied could be double factor.

In these pictures she looks like she could be a type 2 yellow face rather than a green series bird, but I'm not sure about that, in either case the yellow will darken when she matures. She is too young to have iris rings.

[Hezz]

Thank you, nev90. Thanks for also giving us a run-down on the why's.

[samwiseg]

The Genetics Oracle has spoken

[Shirls]

Well done ffiscool, a girlie it has been confirmed!! Clever you!

[ffiscool]

Aha. Fluke though

[mousehq]

Hi Nev90!
Thanks for the insight, that's cool. Where do you get the cinnamon? I don't know much about budgie genetics, but I saw online that "cinnamon" meant brown feather markings instead of black or grey. There's no brown on this bird. She does have black cheek spots on one side of her face, and white on the other, so that's weird.
-mousehq