Budgie pair and chick expectations

[erik]

Hello,

This must be one of a million subjects of it's kind, but i got to ask it. I was just wondering if anyone knows the mutations my budgies have. The blue one is the hen (Blu) which I think it might be recessive pied due to it's black plum eyes. But I also see a resemblace of a V-shape like opaline on it's back or is it just a coincidence? Is it also possible to have mutual mutations?

The green one (Rio) is the cock which I think it most likley to be a spangle.

Can you, if possible confirm my thoughts? If not can you tell me what the exact mutations possibly could be.

Can you also tell me what the chick expectations could be from just your notion about the possible mutations?

Thank you in advance.

[jellybean]

Hi erik, welcome to the forum. These are two gorgeous little buds. I'm sure someone will help you with their mutations, sorry I can't.
I hope you don't mind me saying though, could you please remove or cut, very short, the tassels on both the toys in your second picture, your buds could get their claws caught in them or worse get them tangled around their neck.

[Hezz]

jellybean has made a very good point, regarding the long tassles on the toys; I see there are several that have the same.

Your cock looks to be a grey green or olive green clearwing spangle; the hen looks to be a sky blue recessive pied.

[nev90]

Your cock bird is an olive green spangle and the hen is a sky blue recessive pied (not opaline). The cock's cheek patches show that he is olive not grey green.

If the cock bird is not split for blue or recessive pied the chicks will be dark green normals and dark green spangles.

If he is split for blue but not recessive pied you can expect normal cobalts and spangle cobalts as well.

If he is split for recessive pied about half the chicks will be recessive pied - otherwise no recessive pieds.

There could also be other hidden mutations present in either bird that could give you some nice surprises.

[Hezz]

nev90, what colour would the cock's cheek patches be if he were a grey green?

[nev90]

Nov 28, 2016 7:17:41 GMT Hezz said:

nev90, what colour would the cock's cheek patches be if he were a grey green?

Either grey or blue - Not violet

[Hezz]

Thank you!

[erik]

Nov 28, 2016 1:54:42 GMT nev90 said:

Your cock bird is an olive green spangle and the hen is a sky blue recessive pied (not opaline). The cock's cheek patches show that he is olive not grey green.

If the cock bird is not split for blue or recessive pied the chicks will be dark green normals and dark green spangles.

If he is split for blue but not recessive pied you can expect normal cobalts and spangle cobalts as well.

If he is split for recessive pied about half the chicks will be recessive pied - otherwise no recessive pieds.

There could also be other hidden mutations present in either bird that could give you some nice surprises.

Thank you for your response nev90. It has made it much clearer for me what kind of chicks I should expect.

So, what are the possible recessive mutations by the hen and by the cock and which are sex-linked?

[nev90]

Without knowing the ancestry of the birds you could get all sorts of surprises.

The sex-linked mutations the cock could be split for include: Opaline, Cinnamon, Ino, TCB, Lacewing, etc. If he is split for any of these mutations they could show in some of his daughters. He could also be carrying one of the yellow face mutations.

For recessive mutations, like greywing, clearwing, dilute, fallow, etc., to show in the chicks both birds would have to be carrying the gene.