Taming 2 budgies,separately/together?

[dany]

Hello everyone i'm new on this forum,i have some questions related to budgies of course,my English is not so well i'll say that right in the beginning heh .



I have two budgies male and female,they are around 4-5 weeks old max.I have them around 14-17,and after maybe 4th day i took them out of cage and they were scared but they didn't go crazy like flying inside the cage and stuff,they were calm and i started to hold my finger in front of them and then slowly petting them,and trying them to step on my finger and the male was the first one who step on my finger and later on female did the same,both of them did that inside the cage,and later i tried taking the male out of cage and he was on my finger for few seconds and he flew away (on heating pipes),same thing happened with female but she was wilder than male,he was kinda more calm,i tried taking both of them out of cage at the same time on my finger to see what happens male was more calm/tamed and female looked like she panicked she was spinning hear head and looking around fast (maybe she was looking for a place to escape?) and after few seconds she fly away on the heating pipes (the pipes are like 7-8 centimeters under the ceiling) and he flew away after her too,i trained them to step from finger to finger,trying to gently pet them on the belly and on their back at first they didn't wanted to step on finger and be petted but after a while they kinda used to it,but not quite,i still have to push their belly a bit for them to step on my finger.The male is more calm,he is kinda used to be on my finger,sometimes he's just sitting on my finger and sometimes he flies away,i think he flies away because of the female,i don't know if someone has/had this problem,but to me it seems that female is wilder i know it's rude to say this but she is acting kinda bit*hy some of you may agree to this.Their cage is in the living room,and when i'm taking the out of cage to train them and have them stretch their wings i take them to my bedroom i take both of them at the same time,and the male wants to be on my finger sometimes but in many cases the female is the one who flies away first and then he do the same,but they are flying away on heating pipes all the time and it's annyoing because when i want them to step on my finger i need to stand on my toe fingers to reach to them ,and i have a feeling that they will keep sitting on those pipes all day ,when they are on heating pipes i just gently place my finger on belly of the male budgie and he steps on my finger right away,but with the female it is different,she is on heating pipes and i want her to step on my finger but she keeps running either it is right or left side,and sometimes she steps on my finger but not like male,i need to push her belly a little stronger and then she steps on my finger.So,should i try to train them separately or to keep training them at the same time?Thank you.And sorry for bad English once again hah .
I've got an answer from one person who said i shouldn't take them out of cage after 1-2 weeks but i did.

And should i keep letting them out of the cage since i already did it a few times now or should i just keep them inside of cage and to sit and keep some time next to their cage and talking with them for like about a week?and then to start letting them out of cage again?

And i was also wondering what if i put their cage on my table in my bedroom while i'm on my laptop,they would be on the same table where laptop is right next to me,like 70cm from me,of course i would talk with them as well,but in my bedroom there would be just them and me,no other family members,unless they are in the living room then they would be in presence with other members too.So,would that soulution work as well or no?Thank you.
Edit:And 2-3 ago they started running in cage,they just keep running right and left right and left in front of their cage doors,and then theys start climbing on cage,they want to go out,should i let them out,or to to what i mentioned above?

[Hezz]

First, don’t try to pet them; most budgies, unless they are really bonded with you, do not like to be touched, particularly at this stage when they have no trust in you. Over time they may come to you and touch you with their beak or tongue, and until this happens don’t try touching them except to get them to step up.

When they fly off to the sit on the pipes, have a spare perch ready to get them down. Most budgies are quite happy to step onto a perch even if they won’t step onto you finger. Having them out in your bedroom is a good idea, as long as you are there, and the cage beside your desk while you work. Are you able to move them easily, so that when you are in your room, so are they, but otherwise they can be in the living room with everyone?

Getting two together is always going to make it harder to tame them both, there is always going to be one bird more receptive to training, and one who is shyer and less trusting. You need to work patiently with them both, be persistent with your training, and most of all, persevere. These are not domesticated animals you are working with, not like a cat or a dog; you need to earn their trust, it does not come free.

[dany]

Mar 12, 2018 7:27:17 GMT Hezz said:

First, don’t try to pet them; most budgies, unless they are really bonded with you, do not like to be touched, particularly at this stage when they have no trust in you. Over time they may come to you and touch you with their beak or tongue, and until this happens don’t try touching them except to get them to step up.

When they fly off to the sit on the pipes, have a spare perch ready to get them down. Most budgies are quite happy to step onto a perch even if they won’t step onto you finger. Having them out in your bedroom is a good idea, as long as you are there, and the cage beside your desk while you work. Are you able to move them easily, so that when you are in your room, so are they, but otherwise they can be in the living room with everyone?

Getting two together is always going to make it harder to tame them both, there is always going to be one bird more receptive to training, and one who is shyer and less trusting. You need to work patiently with them both, be persistent with your training, and most of all, persevere. These are not domesticated animals you are working with, not like a cat or a dog; you need to earn their trust, it does not come free.

Thank you for advice,yes i can move them easily while they are inside of cage.At daytime they are with me in my room,and at nighttime they are in living room with everyone,and could you give me any advice with them running all over the cage left/right,left/right and then they start climbing inside the cage,i've posted about this at the bottom of my 1st post above.And should i cover their cage with a blanket or something at nighttime when they go to sleep?Ty.

[Hezz]

Running back and forth in front of the cage - they want to be out. As simple as that. How big is the cage they are in? The bigger the cage, the better; budgies need their own space, just the same as humans do.

[dany]

Mar 12, 2018 20:00:46 GMT Hezz said:

Running back and forth in front of the cage - they want to be out. As simple as that. How big is the cage they are in? The bigger the cage, the better; budgies need their own space, just the same as humans do.

Yeah,that's what i thought as well,i mean it was logical hah ,h45 x l42 x w21 these are the dimensions of their cage.

[Hezz]

That's pretty small for two budgies, regardless of how much time out they get. Look for something that is more like 70-75cm wide. This will leave more room for toys, as well, which the same cage won't allow for. Budgies need toys to keep themselves entertained while caged.