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Post by tweetiepiesmom on Feb 12, 2022 16:25:34 GMT
Hezz Tweetie Pie is going through a molt, has pinnies on his head and has been begging Buddy to preen him. Marianne Marlow Tweetie Pie (with the white head - difficult keeping track of all our budgies!) is the one diagnosed with AGY. At the time he was vomiting seeds everyday. His vet said she saw the rod shaped yeast cells in his droppings (she didn't send them out to a lab) which looked fairly normal. He's still not "normal". If I give him any seeds except millet, he'll vomit them. If I give him a big serving of millet, he'll vomit that. Both boys are on a no-seed diet. Tweetie Pie keeps moving his head like he's going to vomit. Now its happening everyday. I told his new vet about it and she said sometimes they gobble their food so fast that it overfills their crop or it comes back up and they swallow it again. That doesn't explain why he can't eat seeds. Any ideas?
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Oct 6, 2011 7:41:27 GMT
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Feb 12, 2022 16:52:36 GMT
It's very odd, sorry I misunderstood which budgie had the AGY!
Maybe it's some sort of digestive issue or allergy? Or perhaps the seeds irritate his insides somehow?
It stands to reason that if you give him seeds he will over eat them because they're not normally allowed and budgies do love their seeds.
At least you have him on a good and healthy diet. He's lucky to have you looking out for him.
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Feb 12, 2022 16:55:17 GMT
I don't think Sky's droppings were sent to a lab, I think that the veterinary college (RVC) looked at them under a microscope, but they didn't tell me that detail. They have a very good reputation, so I trust what they said.
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Post by tweetiepiesmom on Feb 12, 2022 17:52:47 GMT
Thank you Marianne Marlow. The vet did suggest what you wrote - that he may just have a finicky/sensitive digestive system. She said since he's healthy on the current diet to keep feeding him those foods. I do worry about my little Tweetie Pie.
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Feb 12, 2022 17:56:20 GMT
You're doing your best for him, but I understand the worrying
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Post by criswell on Feb 15, 2022 0:01:17 GMT
I understand you worrying about him too. You take such marvellous care of him and I'm glad you have found a diet that suits his digestion.
I think AGY is very distinct in samples. On one visit the vet made a slide of Dexter's droppings and looked at them under the microscope and didn't see any. On another occasion he looked at a crop swap under the miscroscope too. He certainly knew what he was looking for. On both occaisions he did find too much of one type of bacteria but didn't identify what it was, knew there wasn't any AGY
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Post by criswell on Feb 15, 2022 0:09:32 GMT
The arrow is pointing to an AGY ( Macrorhabdus ornithogaster in a slide made from a faecal sample. It definitely looks different from the rest of the organisms on the slide.
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Post by Hezz on Feb 15, 2022 0:10:26 GMT
They are such a large organism that they are easy to see in a wet prep, and easily distinguished from other faecal flora. But, like many disease organisms, they aren’t necessarily shed all the time, so a single poop sample can show as negative when in fact the bird does carry the bug.
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