Mar 18, 2014 19:29:53 GMT
Flowers
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Post by Flowers on Sept 24, 2014 16:34:37 GMT
Hi
I read a post about Haiths seed that says they don't contain vitamin D3 I wanted to know if this particular seed brand is good for a pet budgie and also what the tonic seed does would this contain D3? I mix a little in with the regular seed each day but I am concerned that zippy is not getting enough vitamins and all that she needs. What should I be giving her to ensure she is having the right diet? Would Trill be better and what is a good vitamin supplement please? Thank you
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Post by Hezz on Sept 25, 2014 0:36:54 GMT
I have just finished answering your question in your other thread.  Vit D3 is what your budgies convert sunshine into, rather the same as we humans do. And in the same way it is important for calcium being absorbed into the body. The best way to provide D3 to your budgies is to give them time out in the sunshine as frequently as possible, sunshine that doesn't come through glass, plastic or perspex as the UVB rays cannot penetrate these. |
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Post by samwiseg on Sept 25, 2014 7:46:02 GMT
Or if you cant get Zippy out in the sunshine then the alternative is to use a UVB bulb ( see here) |
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Post by starlingqueen on Sept 25, 2014 13:09:00 GMT
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Post by Learner on Sept 26, 2014 2:03:12 GMT
starlingqueen you might consider moving south  as we have loads of sunshine down here on the Sussex coast even in winter. Long may it continue.
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Post by starlingqueen on Sept 26, 2014 9:41:37 GMT
I live in the south east.
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Post by Hezz on Sept 26, 2014 10:21:36 GMT
Real sunshine is still the very best thing to provide for your birds; I stand by that! It may not always be possible - I live in a climate where we spend potentially four months in constant rain, but still there is nothing better than direct sun for the conversion of Vit D3. Yes, you may have to look at other options but I think this one is often put into the too-hard basket ........ it is easier to buy something than to go to the extra effort or supervising the birds out in the sun. My turn to shut up: rant over.
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Post by starlingqueen on Sept 26, 2014 10:45:02 GMT
Real sunshine is still the very best thing to provide for your birds; I stand by that! It may not always be possible - I live in a climate where we spend potentially four months in constant rain, but still there is nothing better than direct sun for the conversion of Vit D3. Yes, you may have to look at other options but I think this one is often put into the too-hard basket ........ it is easier to buy something than to go to the extra effort or supervising the birds out in the sun. My turn to shut up: rant over. Totally agree with you hezz. I drag all my birds outside when the sun shines. All except the African grey who is just too nervous to be outside, he just stands and plucks his feathers out if we so much as move his cage and he can't stand being shut in either. The other problem is the aviary birds in my utility room. I can't take the aviary outside so they have a UVB bulb and sups. I do have the door to their room open when the weather permits so they get fresh air and any rays that make their way in. |
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Sept 27, 2014 17:33:53 GMT
Calcivet, a few days every month would do the trick too |
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Post by starlingqueen on Sept 27, 2014 18:39:10 GMT
Calcivet, a few days every month would do the trick too I use calcivet a lot. My tortoises lizard and all my birds have it at varying intervals. |
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Post by OP on Sept 27, 2014 18:47:41 GMT
I must get some of that. Thank you for the info BB & Starlingqueen.
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Post by ffiscool on Sept 27, 2014 22:11:01 GMT
Me too, meant to order it. I read about oyster grit helping on calcium levels, so B gets that added twice a week too
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Vit D3 is what your budgies convert sunshine into, rather the same as we humans do. And in the same way it is important for calcium being absorbed into the body. The best way to provide D3 to your budgies is to give them time out in the sunshine as frequently as possible, sunshine that doesn't come through glass, plastic or perspex as the UVB rays cannot penetrate these.
as we have loads of sunshine down here on the Sussex coast even in winter. 
