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Post by flightfeathers on May 3, 2018 7:55:42 GMT
Hello everyone, I have a pair of budgies I bought a few months back. They were a bonded pair when I bought them but now they no longer like each other  So first I will tell you a bit about them. The female was very young - only a baby and the male is about a couple years old at a guess as he has already had babies. (Could be older) The female, Snowstorm, is an Australian and the male, Hurricane, is English. So back to the topic, when I first bought them they would sit together and preen each other and were a reasonably bonded pair. It didn’t take long tho before snowstorm started attacking hurricane as she preferred to follow my bonded pair of Australian budgies around (although they pay no attention to her, only to peck her if she gets too close) Usually snowstorm and Hurricane will sit at opposite ends of the aviary. When they do get near each other tho they just peck and attack each other and make tittering noises at each other and chase the other away. Hurricane pecks snowstorm too now and he also got nasty and attacked one of my other birds... and they died because of it... Anyway he was such a nice bird before then, never attacked anyone. I’m wondering if he killed my bird because he was frustrated with not having a mate anymore? I also just want my budgies to be happy. What can I do to pair these budgies back up again? My other pair of Australians also peck Hurricane a little bit so he is bottom o the pecking order- is this another reason why snowstorm may peck him? Could she be copying the other budgies? I’m really stuck with what to do. Any advice is much appreciate! |
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Post by clt80 on May 3, 2018 13:38:02 GMT
I'm sorry your other bird died as a result of the pecking. I'd move Hurricane away from them - if he is getting pecked, and in turn pecking others to death it is a wise decision to separate him: for everyone's safety.
I'm afraid you cant make budgies be bonded, whether they were originally bonded or not, it doesn't matter. If they have now chosen not to be a pair then the decision has been made.
I have had bonded pairs that have separated and never gone back. It's just the way it is, like with humans.
The question now is what to do with Hurricane.....
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Post by flightfeathers on May 3, 2018 20:18:27 GMT
I'm sorry your other bird died as a result of the pecking. I'd move Hurricane away from them - if he is getting pecked, and in turn pecking others to death it is a wise decision to separate him: for everyone's safety. I'm afraid you cant make budgies be bonded, whether they were originally bonded or not, it doesn't matter. If they have now chosen not to be a pair then the decision has been made. I have had bonded pairs that have separated and never gone back. It's just the way it is, like with humans. The question now is what to do with Hurricane..... The bird that died was a much more delicate bird than a budgie - a turquoise parrot and she was only young. She was also already weak from sickness so the injury was too much. I have put the male turquoise parrot in my finch aviary now. Hurricane is not a naturally aggressive budgie. He’s always been very nice with other birds so I’m not sure what drove him to do that. He only pecked her once but he must have got the right spot because she lost quite. bit of blood. He only pecks his mate when she annoys him. It’s just a pecking order with the budgies. The other two just leave him alone as they are very bonded. Hurricane isn’t a danger to the other budgies. He was only danger to Turks and there are now no Turks in there. I often have seen budgies peck each other. It’s quite normal but I’ve never seen any injuries as the budgies never go that far with each other. It’s just like when chickens have a pecking order too. |
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Post by flightfeathers on May 3, 2018 20:19:15 GMT
I'm sorry your other bird died as a result of the pecking. I'd move Hurricane away from them - if he is getting pecked, and in turn pecking others to death it is a wise decision to separate him: for everyone's safety. I'm afraid you cant make budgies be bonded, whether they were originally bonded or not, it doesn't matter. If they have now chosen not to be a pair then the decision has been made. I have had bonded pairs that have separated and never gone back. It's just the way it is, like with humans. The question now is what to do with Hurricane..... Should I get the two birds new mates then? An English female for Hurricane and an Australian male for snowstorm? |
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Post by flightfeathers on May 3, 2018 20:20:08 GMT
I'm sorry your other bird died as a result of the pecking. I'd move Hurricane away from them - if he is getting pecked, and in turn pecking others to death it is a wise decision to separate him: for everyone's safety. I'm afraid you cant make budgies be bonded, whether they were originally bonded or not, it doesn't matter. If they have now chosen not to be a pair then the decision has been made. I have had bonded pairs that have separated and never gone back. It's just the way it is, like with humans. The question now is what to do with Hurricane..... The bird that died was a much more delicate bird than a budgie - a turquoise parrot and she was only young. She was also already weak from sickness so the injury was too much. I have put the male turquoise parrot in my finch aviary now. Hurricane is not a naturally aggressive budgie. He’s always been very nice with other birds so I’m not sure what drove him to do that. He only pecked her once but he must have got the right spot because she lost quite. bit of blood. He only pecks his mate when she annoys him. It’s just a pecking order with the budgies. The other two just leave him alone as they are very bonded. Hurricane isn’t a danger to the other budgies. He was only danger to Turks and there are now no Turks in there. I often have seen budgies peck each other. It’s quite normal but I’ve never seen any injuries as the budgies never go that far with each other. It’s just like when chickens have a pecking order too. Thanks for the advice! |
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Post by clt80 on May 4, 2018 6:47:16 GMT
I'm not sure as adding more budgies may exasperate the problem. They are not guaranteed to all get on and you may have more birds fighting/not getting on.
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Post by Hezz on May 4, 2018 7:05:05 GMT
Budgies can and will fight to the death. Don't be fooled by it just being the pecking order. They are just as capable as any other animal of being fiercely aggressive.
Birds do not have to be paired up like some on-line dating site. They can exist quite happily with companionship but without a mate of their own.
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Post by flightfeathers on May 5, 2018 3:18:16 GMT
Budgies can and will fight to the death. Don't be fooled by it just being the pecking order. They are just as capable as any other animal of being fiercely aggressive. Birds do not have to be paired up like some on-line dating site. They can exist quite happily with companionship but without a mate of their own. They aren’t fighting to the death. I haven’t seen them peck each other at all in the last couple days. If you have to seperate a budgie every time one pecks each other, I would have to have a seperate cage for every single budgie including mates! Only one of the budgie will give another a nip if it’s in its way and the other will fly off. They are not fighting!! I know what fighting looks like. I’ve seen it plenty before. Also I will just leave them as they are for now. I may be cage breeding come breeding season so should be alright. |
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Post by flightfeathers on May 5, 2018 3:19:22 GMT
I'm not sure as adding more budgies may exasperate the problem. They are not guaranteed to all get on and you may have more birds fighting/not getting on. Depends because I had an English cross female in a cage in there at one point and my English male fell in love with her instantly. Only she couldn’t fly so I gave her away. |
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So first I will tell you a bit about them. The female was very young - only a baby and the male is about a couple years old at a guess as he has already had babies. (Could be older) The female, Snowstorm, is an Australian and the male, Hurricane, is English. So back to the topic, when I first bought them they would sit together and preen each other and were a reasonably bonded pair. It didn’t take long tho before snowstorm started attacking hurricane as she preferred to follow my bonded pair of Australian budgies around (although they pay no attention to her, only to peck her if she gets too close) Usually snowstorm and Hurricane will sit at opposite ends of the aviary. When they do get near each other tho they just peck and attack each other and make tittering noises at each other and chase the other away. Hurricane pecks snowstorm too now and he also got nasty and attacked one of my other birds... and they died because of it... Anyway he was such a nice bird before then, never attacked anyone. I’m wondering if he killed my bird because he was frustrated with not having a mate anymore? I also just want my budgies to be happy. What can I do to pair these budgies back up again? My other pair of Australians also peck Hurricane a little bit so he is bottom o the pecking order- is this another reason why snowstorm may peck him? Could she be copying the other budgies? I’m really stuck with what to do. Any advice is much appreciate! 
