Need help identifying the sex of my Budgie

[philbot]

Hi Everyone,

I need help identifying the budgie on the right side (dark eyed clear white - I hope I am correct on this). My guess is that "she's" a female because most of the identification notes state that males have a pinkish purplish cere but never blue. I think that "she" is at most 9 months old.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

[Marianne Marlow]

He's likely a double factor spangle and a boy.

[ladybird]

I agree with Marianne

[Hezz]

Dec 9, 2021 8:14:08 GMT Marianne Marlow said:

He's likely a double factor spangle and a boy.

Totally agree with Marianne Marlow.

[philbot]

Dec 9, 2021 8:14:08 GMT Marianne Marlow said:

He's likely a double factor spangle and a boy.

Thanks. What identifications did you use to reach that conclusion? I'm new to budgies and since this one isn't a normal one, it's confusing the heck out of me.   

[Marianne Marlow]

He's white with a blue cere, so I couldn't think of anything else he could be

I have had two double factor spangles and they were the same, also had a bit of a blue tinge to belly feathers mostly.

Dec 10, 2021 2:12:50 GMT philbot said:

Dec 9, 2021 8:14:08 GMT Marianne Marlow said:

He's likely a double factor spangle and a boy.

Thanks. What identifications did you use to reach that conclusion? I'm new to budgies and since this one isn't a normal one, it's confusing the heck out of me.   

[Marianne Marlow]

Also I think that if the budgie was a dark eyed clear, they would not have iris rings, whereas a double factor spangle does.

Your budgie has iris rings.

[Hezz]

Dec 10, 2021 9:40:58 GMT Marianne Marlow said:

Also I think that if the budgie was a dark eyed clear, they would not have iris rings, whereas a double factor spangle does.

Your budgie has iris rings.

Agree, although I couldn’t see the iris rings - that was going to be my next question.

[Marianne Marlow]

I'm sure I can see them Hezz

Dec 10, 2021 21:28:26 GMT Hezz said:

Dec 10, 2021 9:40:58 GMT Marianne Marlow said:

Also I think that if the budgie was a dark eyed clear, they would not have iris rings, whereas a double factor spangle does.

Your budgie has iris rings.

Agree, although I couldn’t see the iris rings - that was going to be my next question.

[Hezz]

Maybe philbot can help with that … does he have iris rings? There may be just the beginning there that I can see.
I don’t think there is any doubt he is actually a he, so that does rule out him being a dark-eyed clear with that blue cere.

[philbot]

Dec 10, 2021 21:49:04 GMT Hezz said:

Maybe philbot can help with that … does he have iris rings? There may be just the beginning there that I can see.
I don’t think there is any doubt he is actually a he, so that does rule out him being a dark-eyed clear with that blue cere.

Looks like he does. I tried looking for them a month ago but didn't really see any. Are they supposed to be so lightly colored? My other budgie has pretty obvious irises that cannot be mistaken for a reflection.

[Marianne Marlow]

I think they are meant to have proper light irises at 8 months, so is it possible he's younger than 9 months?

[philbot]

Dec 10, 2021 22:54:32 GMT Marianne Marlow said:

I think they are meant to have proper light irises at 8 months, so is it possible he's younger than 9 months?

We got him in July and we were told that he was about 4 months old at the time. I wasn't the one who purchased him so I can't be sure. If only I took more interest in budgie genetics, I would have made sure to ask more questions.

Is there an issue having 2 males? Would they be more inclined to fight?

[Marianne Marlow]

No, two males should get on just fine.