May 29, 2012 19:03:40 GMT
David
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Post by David on Jun 1, 2012 7:30:41 GMT
Hey Marianne. Yeah, like I said, our vets here are vets in general. Yes, they're certified veterinarians, but they don't specialize in birds. So in short, they're not really avian vets, and they may not have known how to diagnose for french moult. Yes I'm reading the article. Thanks for this. So, will my Pepper get worse? Could I slow down the 'damage' done to Pepper? Will he live a shorter life or something 'cause of this?
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May 29, 2012 19:03:40 GMT
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Post by David on Jun 1, 2012 7:32:08 GMT
We all strongly believe that your budgie may have PBFD or french moult. I thought you would want to see a photo of one of my budgies when they were young. Here is Alfie as about 9 weeks old, only a tiny bit older than your Pepper, note he has all of his wing flight feathers. I see, so how's Alfie now? Hmmm. By looking at Alfie, it seems that he has complete feathers (with the tail). I'm just wondering my my Pepper still has no tailfeathers. He has some, but are still very short. Is Alfie doing okay now? How's he now that he's older? Did the french moult get worse? What did you do to try and take care of him?
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May 29, 2012 19:03:40 GMT
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Post by David on Jun 1, 2012 7:34:59 GMT
David, Pepper is very sweet but im sorry to say that i have to agree with the other's about him having PBFD or French Moult. An Avian vet would have picked this up straight away i think. I have a budgie with French Moult and this is a picture of him, it has got worse as he has got older he is 9 now. My boy is not the worst case but note his wings, very similar to your Pepper. Hmm, thanks for this. I'm sad that my first baby has this french moult. So, what should I do? Your budgie's 9 years old now, I'm sure he's doing well. What does the french moult do exactly to budgies? They don't die from it, do they? Besides from not being able to fly and grow their feathers properly, what should I look out for? And any particular way of how to take care of 'em? Yes, I agree. If the vets were avian vets, they could've picked this up straight away. Sucks to be in a third world country.
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May 29, 2012 19:03:40 GMT
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Post by David on Jun 1, 2012 7:38:26 GMT
I'm not sure about PBFD, but Munchy is suspected of having French Moult. I got him when he was five weeks old and he had no flight feathers. When they grew in, before the age that Pepper is, they were nearly white, barely any pigment, and the longest two on each wing would break and bleed, likely because they were too heavy for the strength of the feather pin. His longest two tail feathers are a little paler than his body too. French Moult can't be cured but Munchy hasn't dropped a feather like that since before his first moult and they seem to be shedding normally, so I'm hoping they won't break again. If Munchy's condition is French Moult then he has a very mild case of it, for which I'm thankful, but French Moult isn't the end of the world. You probably shouldn't ever breed Pepper, but if his feathers don't grow in then make sure his perches are low down and that he can hop between them. He can still be a lovely companion to you Okay. I'll just be praying and hoping that Pepper's feathers grow back and don't break. I'm not planning on breeding Pepper. I plan to just really hand tame the little fella and make him as my companion, you know. Having him run around the room, play and stuff. And I plan to teach him how to talk, so yeah. Not planning on getting another budgie for him. So, if Pepper's not gonna be able to fly, he's gonna be what they call a 'runner' budgie, huh? Will his legs be strong enough for this? Will the french moult get in the way? How's Munchy now? I'd love to hear how your budgie's doing right now and how you took care of him.
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May 29, 2012 19:03:40 GMT
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Post by David on Jun 1, 2012 7:46:42 GMT
I agree with Ira, up until this year my Jo Jo has always managed to re-grow his flight feathers and has always lead a full and active life. As ive said he is nine now and this year has been the worst year as he doesn't seem to be re-growing them. He has been in an Aviary for five years or so and i have adapted the Aviary to bring the floors up for when he has his Moult's so that he does not have so far to fall and placed very low perches for him to be able to climb back up. He is a lovely boy and very friendly. Pepper may well grow in the feathers it depends how bad it is, its just something you have to accept with him as im sure you have already fallen for the little guy. You should never breed from him as you will be passing it on but as Ira said you will still have a lovely little friend. I wouldn't part with Jo Jo for the world Okay, I see. Thanks for this. Yes, I've setup Pepper's cage as such that it's full of perches, to not give him a hard time on climbing back to his favorite perches or getting his food and stuff. If this really is french moult, then okay. It's no biggie. I'm just worried if this would affect Pepper in another way that I couldn't see (like illnesses, not feeling well, etc.). But if budgies with french moults can still be active and the only thing taken away from them is flying, then that's okay. Pepper's gonna be in my room the whole day anyway, and there's no room for flying here. And yes, I don't plan on breeding the little guy. He's gonna be my companion. Teach him to talk and stuff. Thank you for this, I really appreciate it. It's good to hear other's experiences and how well their bird is doing. It gives me hope.
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May 29, 2012 19:03:40 GMT
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Post by David on Jun 1, 2012 7:51:22 GMT
I feel the same about Munchy, skysmum. One day, he'll probably fail to grow them back in when his body starts to age. I just make sure to supply egg food during his moults so that he has enough protein to increase the chances of him having stronger feathers, which might be why they haven't broken recently. Be careful not to cause protein overdose, but if you can get Pepper to enjoy vegetables and things, trying him with hard boiled egg. Make sure it's fully cooked, not at all raw. I feed Munchy one approximately every month. I don't know how many days they keep for in the fridge but I've never trusted eggs, so I give him half one day and half the next, he never eats it all but he loves them, so it's not a problem. If you wanted to give a quarter one day and a quarter the next you could always eat the other half yourself ;D You can supply dry or moist egg food, depending on Pepper's preference, during the proper moult, or buy this liquid version called moultone that the bird seller in the market told me about when he thought I wanted a finger feeder like breeders use to give egg food to breeding birds. It's a thin, shallow tray that can be inserted through the bars and clips to them as egg food is generally quite rich and they don't need much. When Munchy lost his outer wing feathers, especially the first time as he lost one from each wing on the same day, he was very off balance, so I lowered all his perches to make sure he wouldn't hurt himself if he fell, although he could glide, and then once he adjusted I could raise them again, although they're not really all that high now anyway as I prefer the cage perches lower down because he always looks cramped when they're up high and it encourages him to come out as he has one at the level of the door. If Pepper's feathers never grow in, then just make sure they're low. If they do grow in, I recommend setting yourself up with some cornflour in a handy place in case they ever do break like Munchy's feathers. He would flap his wings and one would slip out of place, but not break off fully. It would bleed and the first time his side were soaked with blood and he plucked all the feathers to remove the staining, probably natural instinct to prevent predators from smelling blood on him as he was still nervous around us at the time. So, after that mishap, I would catch him up and feel the wing gently for where the broken feather shaft was among the rest of his wing feathers and then pack that area with cornflour. That would staunch the bleed and then I would let Munchy go back to a perch and he would break the feather off himself, which meant that it didn't bleed anymore. I've heard that you need to remove the tip, which a vet should do, but I've never done it and his new feathers have grown in fine. It may never come to any of that, and I hope it won't. As soon as I saw Pepper's pictures I thought 'French moult' though, sadly. In some ways it may be better if Pepper's feathers don't grow in as at least then he won't miss flying if he can't manage it in the future, but hopefully everything will be okay. If the worst comes to the worst, you'll find a way to cope. Pepper won't be any less of a friend to you just because he can't fly and it won't stop him from learning to talk if he wants to. He might not talk for a while, just keep repeating phrases around him that you'd like him to say, even if he doesn't repeat any of them for months. When Munchy first began to talk he would only mutter the words and you could only hear them if he was right next to your ear, but often times he'll speak really clearly now (unless we want him to, and then he won't ;D ) Wow. Thank you for this. Okay, I'll try to feed him some boiled egg maybe later or tomorrow. Gotta go buy some egg first. Do I feed him the white, the yolk, or both? I'm not sure. Oh, and I was able to buy some 'egg food' from the store (it's like little brown grains, bits and pieces) and I'm wondering if this could also be an alternative? It just says 'egg food' and nothing else, so I'm confused. While I'm reading this, it seems to me that the only thing that budgies with french moult could not do is fly, and that's fine with me. I don't want him flying too much either. I've seen videos of budgies on the net, and most of them are just running around. That's what I want! Haha. They'so cute. And it's very nice to hear that you've trained your budgie even though he has french moult. It's really giving me hope. Regarding the breaking of feathers, I've not seen any on Pepper so far. His feathers don't fall of, and none of them have broken and bled. So I think so far, it's going okay.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2012 15:12:34 GMT
You feed both the white and the yolk What's in the egg food? It should list the ingredients. Mine's a dry powder made from egg, honey and a few seeds. It is an alternative to egg. You can sprinkle it on the seeds or supply it in a dish Don't give too much protein though. An egg once or twice a month should be sufficient. I don't give egg food on the same day as egg Munchy is fine now. He's shedding wing feathers as part of his natural moult and flies around quite happily. If Pepper doesn't get enough feathers to fly then he will be what's called a runner. His legs are perfectly strong enough. A lot of budgies like running around flat surfaces to play with toys like little cat bells and weebles. Munchy spends most afternoons and evenings on our living room windowsill. You can't stop a flighted budgie flying, it's part of their life, although they don't do it constantly, and it's good for them as, if I remember rightly, it strengthens the muscles around their hearts as well as their wing muscles. I would love Munchy to just want to sit with me all day, and sometimes he will, but if we're in the living room he just wants to play and won't sit with me on the sofa, but he'll sit on me when I'm sitting next to his cage. I'm trying to get him to like a table so I can be on the same surface as him. I'm also going to make him a little tree that I can put on what is supposed to be my computer desk so that he can perch next to me then. I figure if I have a perch he might be more willing to stick around. Budgies don't die of French Moult. If they can't fly then their chest and possibly heart muscles might be a little weaker and so he might have a slightly shorter life, especially if he is exposed to stressful situations, but as long as you take good care of him he should still be able to have a long and happy life There's nothing different between a budgie with french moult and a healthy budgie aside from the potential inability to fly It was only Munchy's longest two flight feathers that bled and broke, I think because they were too heavy for the strength of the pin that runs through them. Pepper may never grow any flight or tail feathers, but if he does they may either shed again straight away, in which case you will have to supply the protein supplement more regularly as he will keep growing his feathers back which will place a drain on the protein stores in his body. Hopefully they will grow in and be perfectly fine Wings and claws crossed
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May 29, 2012 19:03:40 GMT
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Post by David on Jun 3, 2012 16:49:03 GMT
You feed both the white and the yolk What's in the egg food? It should list the ingredients. Mine's a dry powder made from egg, honey and a few seeds. It is an alternative to egg. You can sprinkle it on the seeds or supply it in a dish Don't give too much protein though. An egg once or twice a month should be sufficient. I don't give egg food on the same day as egg Munchy is fine now. He's shedding wing feathers as part of his natural moult and flies around quite happily. If Pepper doesn't get enough feathers to fly then he will be what's called a runner. His legs are perfectly strong enough. A lot of budgies like running around flat surfaces to play with toys like little cat bells and weebles. Munchy spends most afternoons and evenings on our living room windowsill. You can't stop a flighted budgie flying, it's part of their life, although they don't do it constantly, and it's good for them as, if I remember rightly, it strengthens the muscles around their hearts as well as their wing muscles. I would love Munchy to just want to sit with me all day, and sometimes he will, but if we're in the living room he just wants to play and won't sit with me on the sofa, but he'll sit on me when I'm sitting next to his cage. I'm trying to get him to like a table so I can be on the same surface as him. I'm also going to make him a little tree that I can put on what is supposed to be my computer desk so that he can perch next to me then. I figure if I have a perch he might be more willing to stick around. Budgies don't die of French Moult. If they can't fly then their chest and possibly heart muscles might be a little weaker and so he might have a slightly shorter life, especially if he is exposed to stressful situations, but as long as you take good care of him he should still be able to have a long and happy life There's nothing different between a budgie with french moult and a healthy budgie aside from the potential inability to fly It was only Munchy's longest two flight feathers that bled and broke, I think because they were too heavy for the strength of the pin that runs through them. Pepper may never grow any flight or tail feathers, but if he does they may either shed again straight away, in which case you will have to supply the protein supplement more regularly as he will keep growing his feathers back which will place a drain on the protein stores in his body. Hopefully they will grow in and be perfectly fine Wings and claws crossed === Hey! Sorry for replying just today. Been very busy with school stuff. So, regarding the egg food, I dunno. It's those stuff that pet stores repack themselves. So it's just inside a sealed clear plastic with the label 'egg food'. I was guessing that it was very good for them that's why I bought it. It's good to hear that Munchy's doing okay. Pepper's okay too, though I just found out now that 3 of Pepper's biggest wing feathers just fell off. No bleeding whatsoever, but they just fell off. Probably when Pepper was flapping his wings and trying to fly about. I don't think he pluck them off though. Should I supply the egg food now? If Pepper turns out to be a runner budgie, then that's perfectly fine for me! It would be great to have a budgie running around the table. Besides, I could bring my budgie to other people's houses and stuff and not worry that he will fly off (of course making sure that the house is safe and stuff). Having a small perch on your computer table would be a great idea! I'm planning to buy one (or make one) too! I'm having trouble with Pepper being out of his cage. Whenever I ask him to step up on my finger, his immediate reaction is to scurry away until he has nowhere to go but step up on my finger. It's working, and I could bring him out of the cage, but I'm worried that it might traumatize him even more that I'm chasing him around. I just can't seem to make him 'like' going out of his cage. I guess he feels safe in his cage. Might it be because of he has not yet settled in yet? He's no more than a week staying here at home, so maybe he's not yet settled in.. that's why he's not yet that curious. I've heard budgies are VERY curious animals, and Pepper's not showing any signs of curiosity. At most times, he just wants to sit along quietly on a perch. How can I make him "WANT" to go out of his cage? By the way, it is VERY GOOD to hear that the only main difference is between healthy budgies and ones with PBFD is that inability to fly. What a relief! Whew. Oh, and of course the feathers not growing so well. But that's okay. Pepper's already adorable, with or without his feathers. So regarding the egg, how do I serve them to Pepper and will he eat it right away? How long do I keep it in the cage? They will spoil, I'm sure. Pepper's very hesitant with new stuff in his cage. Out of all the perches, he may have only tried a few. Of all the swings? None. Of the 3 food cups, only 1. So how do I encourage him to go and be curious? Or is this Pepper just being not settled in yet?
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Post by Rachael Kellett on Jun 3, 2012 17:56:13 GMT
We all strongly believe that your budgie may have PBFD or french moult. I thought you would want to see a photo of one of my budgies when they were young. Here is Alfie as about 9 weeks old, only a tiny bit older than your Pepper, note he has all of his wing flight feathers. I see, so how's Alfie now? Hmmm. By looking at Alfie, it seems that he has complete feathers (with the tail). I'm just wondering my my Pepper still has no tailfeathers. He has some, but are still very short. Is Alfie doing okay now? How's he now that he's older? Did the french moult get worse? What did you do to try and take care of him? No Alfie does not have anything wrong with him, I was using him as an example of what a healthy young budgies feathers should look like
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2012 18:08:57 GMT
It takes them a while to settle in. He'll liven up eventually. He might also be nervous because he's struggling with flying so he has one less way to escape from you. You might want to introduce him to millet by pegging some in his cage, then if he likes it, offer some from your hand and let him come to you. If you keep that up a few times a day he should start seeing your hand as less of a threat. It's pretty much definitely french moult then. Supplying the egg food is a good idea because Pepper will most likely be trying to grow new feathers and it will be a drain on him. I began getting Munchy to come out using millet pegged outside and putting his favourite toys on the outside of the cage. He only really started enjoying coming out when I started putting the cage up on the stand rather than on the floor of the living room and it was around the same time as he hit his first moult at four months old, so I wasn't harrassing him with my hand because he'd bite me. Even now Munchy isn't really that curious. He won't land on anything he hasn't been on before unless he has no other option and when he does explore new things it's stuff that's right next to the living room windowsill where he likes to hang out and it's always stuff we don't want him touching, like the curtains because he might swallow sequins! Don't harrass Pepper too much for the first few weeks, you want him to feel safe and comfortable. Munchy didn't come out of his cage for a few weeks until he would step onto my hand, and didn't enjoy it for ages after that. It'll come eventually, you just have to be patient. I've learnt that the hard way
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May 29, 2012 19:03:40 GMT
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Post by David on Jun 3, 2012 21:08:49 GMT
I see, so how's Alfie now? Hmmm. By looking at Alfie, it seems that he has complete feathers (with the tail). I'm just wondering my my Pepper still has no tailfeathers. He has some, but are still very short. Is Alfie doing okay now? How's he now that he's older? Did the french moult get worse? What did you do to try and take care of him? No Alfie does not have anything wrong with him, I was using him as an example of what a healthy young budgies feathers should look like Oh, haha. Sorry bout that. Didn't quite get that. Yeah, that was I was saying. Alfie looks very healthy, that's why I wondered what you did. Well, yeah, I guess Pepper's got the PBFD. I just saw three big wing feathers on the floor today. I just hope they all won't fall out. Could I do anything to prevent this? Or slow it down?
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Post by David on Jun 3, 2012 21:26:08 GMT
It takes them a while to settle in. He'll liven up eventually. He might also be nervous because he's struggling with flying so he has one less way to escape from you. You might want to introduce him to millet by pegging some in his cage, then if he likes it, offer some from your hand and let him come to you. If you keep that up a few times a day he should start seeing your hand as less of a threat. It's pretty much definitely french moult then. Supplying the egg food is a good idea because Pepper will most likely be trying to grow new feathers and it will be a drain on him. I began getting Munchy to come out using millet pegged outside and putting his favourite toys on the outside of the cage. He only really started enjoying coming out when I started putting the cage up on the stand rather than on the floor of the living room and it was around the same time as he hit his first moult at four months old, so I wasn't harrassing him with my hand because he'd bite me. Even now Munchy isn't really that curious. He won't land on anything he hasn't been on before unless he has no other option and when he does explore new things it's stuff that's right next to the living room windowsill where he likes to hang out and it's always stuff we don't want him touching, like the curtains because he might swallow sequins! Don't harrass Pepper too much for the first few weeks, you want him to feel safe and comfortable. Munchy didn't come out of his cage for a few weeks until he would step onto my hand, and didn't enjoy it for ages after that. It'll come eventually, you just have to be patient. I've learnt that the hard way I see. Thanks for this! My God, and I thought the training is going pretty well! I've had it wrong all along! So I guess I was really rushing Pepper, huh? I mean, he's still not that active in the cage. Just sits on a perch, preen his feathers, and that's it. I though a couple of days is what all it takes to let him settle in and start training. And to think about it, I've had it wrong the first day I got him. I immediately began training him. Damn. Just wished I hadn't have done that. Yeah, I've heard that budgies love millet spray. In fact, I've had a lone dove before Pepper, and my dove really loves her millet spray. Only problem is, I'm in the province right now. There's no millet spray being sold here. In fact, I've asked around pet stores, and they don't even know what a millet spray was! And because of its rarity, I don't even know what its translation is in our language so I couldn't fully describe it to them. We have millet seeds though. But no millet spray. The millet spray I was able to buy was from Manila (country's capital). And I'll be flying back there not anytime soon. I've heard millet spray is perfect for training and taming, but is there any alternative to this? We might have some here at our place. Okay, I will start to supply the egg food tomorrow. And since Pepper's got the PBFD, maybe I'll just give him a constant supply of the egg food, eh? What do you think? Hmmm, Pepper doesn't bite though. I think he's too young to be biting. He nibbles and squawks when he's annoyed by me touching him, but this is rare. But still, yep, it seems as if he doesn't enjoy going out of his cage. I'd want to follow your technique, but as of this moment, Pepper still has no 'favorite' toys. He doesn't like to explore his cage that much yet. Well as of now, Pepper doesn't really have a favorite place to hang around other than his cage. Atleast your Munchy has his windowsill. ;D But, how is Munchy now? Is he already fully tame? Does he like to hang out with you a lot? Is he really curious and stuff? I think the reason why I'm pushing myself to Pepper is that I don't want Pepper to establish the idea of him being overprotective of his cage and space in that after a few weeks of no touching, he might turn out to be like the usual pet store budgies who fly around in fear when they see a hand coming. I thought that this time is the most perfect time to tame Pepper - now that he's still trying to figure out his new home. I was thinking that 'maybe' he'll accept my hand as a normal and everyday part of his cage. Also, I've read on other threads that the best time to tame a budgie is right when you get home. I dunno. That may be wrong. I guess, all I'm looking for is assurance. If I leave Pepper alone first for the first few weeks (Pepper's been here with me for just like four days now) to let him settle in first, can he still be hand-tamed then? Just like you said, you did this with Munchy. You never pushed him and you were very patient. And you said that even if he would step on to your finger, it seemed like he didn't enjoy it - just like Pepper! I'm so relieved that I'm not alone in this. But is Munchy doing okay right now? Is he already tame? If he is, then I'm glad. I still have hope in taming Pepper.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2012 8:15:52 GMT
Starting taming is fine but if Pepper isn't exploring his cage yet then go slow with him. Maybe just have two sessions a day of a few minutes, sort of ease him into it. Well, Munchy is tame but he still won't get up onto my hand every time. I haven't got around to teaching him to come when I call, either. He used to but doesn't now. I don't know if Munchy likes being with me. Sometimes if I sit next to his cage then he will hop onto my shoulder and hop on and off, and will stay there for a long time if I move away from his cage. If I go into the kitchen with him for more than a few minutes he will go back to his cage, and in the living room he will completely ignore me in favour of the windowsill. So I think he prefers his toys but we're working on it. He will sit on me constantly in my room, and in the bathroom until I get in the bath, then he'll go to wherever I've put a perch for him. Munchy is 6 months old. Bearing in mind I made mistakes with him. I was trying to get him on my hand from the first day. He'd oblige but we never had proper taming and I had to catch him to patch up his wings so he was not at all found of hands. So, as soon as his moult started at 4 months he was biting me, and it hurt. So much so that I couldn't put my hand near him and we began to hate each other, or at least I didn't like him much. At around 5 months I plastered up my finger and armed myself with a spray bottle of water and got my granddad to put my finger near Munchy. Once I found that biting didn't hurt with the plaster I tried taming him. The biting reduced when he realised he just got wet for his efforts, but then I went away for two days and he was bitey again and I had to go back to uni. So now I've been doing taming with him for about three weeks, not as regularly as I would like, and we're getting there. He's growing out of the biting phase, which helps, and fortunately only bites places where he can't get a good grip. So, basically, don't rush and it should come sooner for you and Pepper than it has for me and Munchy. But you'll get there in the end, don't worry Also, once you get Pepper stepping up consistently inside the cage, don't be surprised if he won't when he's outside. You'll need to practice it with him outside, so having something he can perch on will come in handy. When he does get a bit more confident though, let him do his own thing for a bit when he comes out. Let him explore the outside of his cage and if he only stays out for a few minutes at first then just let him be. It's better to work more at his pace whilst he's still feeling a bit unsure, then once he knows you better and he's feeling confident in his surroundings you can teach him that you're the decision maker and such, which generally just involves making sure that you're the one to put him back on his perch when he's stepped up rather than letting him jump off when he wants. But all in good time
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Post by Kath/Gaz on Jun 4, 2012 12:37:14 GMT
David, sorry i haven't been able to comment on Pepper because i still can't open the facebook link and see him, probably my end as others have managed to. Pepper does not need a nest and any music will be fine to leave on when you go out but just as a low background noise, not blasting him off his perch ;D. Okay, as for the pics, I might as well place some here. And try to click on the link below. What's your verdict? (MORE newly uploaded pictures here: www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150889659366026.423054.731406025&type=1&l=eb69394c5a) Okay, that's what I've been doing.. Just leaving some low background music for Pepper. But, I'm confused about if having Pepper listen to other budgie chirps on my laptop will hinder Pepper from learning how to talk? Talk about melting my heart.....what a little cutie....those big bright eyes and his little facial expressions....I can not help you with his medical problem but I have to say you are doing a great job with him.....
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May 29, 2012 19:03:40 GMT
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Post by David on Jun 4, 2012 17:53:58 GMT
Okay, as for the pics, I might as well place some here. And try to click on the link below. What's your verdict? (MORE newly uploaded pictures here: www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150889659366026.423054.731406025&type=1&l=eb69394c5a) Okay, that's what I've been doing.. Just leaving some low background music for Pepper. But, I'm confused about if having Pepper listen to other budgie chirps on my laptop will hinder Pepper from learning how to talk? Talk about melting my heart.....what a little cutie....those big bright eyes and his little facial expressions....I can not help you with his medical problem but I have to say you are doing a great job with him..... Awww, gee thanks. He really is a cutie. He's just so adorable, even if his feathers are like that. I just love him.
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