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Post by missbrazilianxx on Aug 24, 2012 16:47:58 GMT
Hi everyone, it's me again.. I wanted to thank everyone who answered my previous topic about "Older Budgie Problem.." Anyway, a little update is, I adopted 2 more budgies.. Right now I don't have names or know gender, So I'll say Blue and White and Little Man who was my original bird.. When I went to the birds exotic place; 2 budgies were placed in the cage with my budgie who a matter a fact is very stubborn but was unhappy... Once putting the 2 budgies in, he brightened up immediately ! He wouldn't leave Little Blue alone.. which was fine, because they said he would take over a father figure for them... Well he totally ignored Little White.. So now... they have been home for over a week, and I have a great bond with little blue, but only because Little man has totally ignored "him" But little man will not leave Little white alone. It's cute but at the same time, " she" does not want to be without him either. He doesn't let her eat, or do anything. He constantly wants to be with her, I'm worried I will not be able to bond with "her".... Does anyone have any advice? I have a problem where I don't know if I could separate them from each other because they are really close  Ok, thank you.. and sorry again !! xoxo, Ash, Little Man, Little White & Little Blue |
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Post by Hezz on Aug 25, 2012 11:05:41 GMT
Hey, Ash. For starters, the two newies should have been quarantined to be sure no-one was passing diseases to the other. Quarantine is generally for a month, 4 weeks, to be sure. This is a good time to start training and bonding before introducing them to the resident bird.
Three birds ....... generally there is going to be one left out. If the one being left out is because it wants to be left out, that's okay, but if it is because the other two form a friendship and "two's company, three's a crowd" then there is one unhappy, lonely budgie. Not sure from your post which of the new budgies is the one being left out as you have made reference to both, but the left out bird may well want to bond with you, or you may have to go back and get bird number 4 to even things up - after quarantine, though.
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Jul 21, 2012 17:20:14 GMT
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Post by sweetie on Aug 25, 2012 17:21:27 GMT
Hey, I agree with Hezz maybe get a forth if little blue is really getting left out badly, it's really lowly that little man and little white have bonded so closely but if I were you I would also cherish the fact that little blue is bonding so well with you  make sure we get some more pictures soon PS- I know it's easy to doubt your abilities web you don't know what your doing and budgies are a fresh experience for you but have faith and persist you'll reach your goal and it will be sooooooo worth it x |
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Post by missbrazilianxx on Aug 27, 2012 13:13:17 GMT
Hello All, Good morning .... Bad bad bad news for me I guess... I guess I'll start by saying I didn't quarantine the birds... When I went to the birds exotic place, they all got along and they said that it wouldn't be a problem... I do trust this place, as they have been angles honestly to me and my birds... But I know that isn't enough. I can't take the birds apart because they all go crazy... But here is the CRAZY issue right now........ Please anyone who can read this, please help me !! My efforts are seriously not enough. (I'm Not using names, Just colors) OK So in the Cage is Blue, White and Green. In the beginning Green *my original* LOVED Blue. and would give White attention here and there. When we got home, a day later.. Green ignored blue and would only go to white. So it has been a "love affair" with green and white, and I have been able to bond with Blue. Well My previous issue was I felt bad for blue... BUT NOW... Tables have turned. Green ONLY wants Blue and actually attacks White. He keeps putting her to the cage floor. Every time he does this in a firm voice I say NO ! and he actually seems to understanding, but it's when I have my back turned he does it again ! I cannot have a permanent cage separate for the birds but I can separate them for a while... even though they go CRAZY !!! Please someone help I am sorry I am always here with a new problem, but I trust this forum so much and would LOVE answers from everyone that can help. Thank you. |
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Post by sweetie on Aug 27, 2012 17:46:38 GMT
Sorry to hear your having a bad time again, really not sure what to suggest, maybe they are just establishing a pecking order as it were and the behaviour is only temporary until they learn thier new places, if any of them are actually getting hurt though, you may have to separate them even if they are initially rattled by it like Hezz said earlier sometimes a pair of birds can exclude a third party and I'm guessing things could turn nasty. Just keep a close eye for now and if you think any of them are in really danger of being hurt then act x |
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Post by Hezz on Aug 28, 2012 1:08:10 GMT
Your choices are separate them, or leave them to sort it out. You are the only one who has seen the behaviour, so really you will have to make the call whether the green cock is overly aggressive or just shooing the other away to keep her in her place. The other question is, Is the cage big enough for three birds? You must remember that the green bird, from the way it behaves, most likely is an aviary bird and not used to being so confined. And he may always feel restricted for space in a cage. He may never become resigned to a cage situation.  |
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Post by missbrazilianxx on Aug 29, 2012 13:19:08 GMT
Hi heez... The cage is big enough for the 3 birds.. In regards to the Aviary , I searched where I live, and there are none near me, or listed... It's honestly not common here because I have asked people/places and they know what an Aviary is (I didn't) but haven't heard of one, and there is one in NYC (3 hours from here) But only with Owls, etc.. None with parakeets.. I let them roam out of the cage, for hours.. as long as they want, but they ALL want the cage as soon as their out. I have seen progress in regards to me bonding with all three birds, even my green.. Sorry I just keep having problems, everyone must think I'm a terrible bird owner I've owned TONS of parrots in Brazil, which are still there with my family, but budgies just seem to be SO complicated... Thank you again. -Ash. |
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Post by missbrazilianxx on Aug 29, 2012 13:21:41 GMT
Sorry to hear your having a bad time again, really not sure what to suggest, maybe they are just establishing a pecking order as it were and the behaviour is only temporary until they learn thier new places, if any of them are actually getting hurt though, you may have to separate them even if they are initially rattled by it like Hezz said earlier sometimes a pair of birds can exclude a third party and I'm guessing things could turn nasty. Just keep a close eye for now and if you think any of them are in really danger of being hurt then act x Hello, Thank you for your suggestions... I don't think either are getting HURT.. I just don't like seeing the behavior that is taking place. I do say something as soon as I see it. And they seem to know it's not acceptable. it has gotten better but I don't know... I work as an in-home nurse for a disabled child and tonight I will be here until Monday.. I am bringing my birds over to Boss' house where there is tons of space for them to fly, be outside etc..... hopefully that does the trick... Thank you so much again -Ash |
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Post by Hezz on Aug 30, 2012 0:59:23 GMT
By aviary I was referring to a privately owned aviary, such as plenty of our members have, where someone is housing their own birds, possibly breeding them. Not something commercially. If there are budgies to be bought there must be someone around who is breeding them. This is where I meant the green budgie probably came from.
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Post by missbrazilianxx on Aug 30, 2012 12:14:43 GMT
By aviary I was referring to a privately owned aviary, such as plenty of our members have, where someone is housing their own birds, possibly breeding them. Not something commercially. If there are budgies to be bought there must be someone around who is breeding them. This is where I meant the green budgie probably came from. I'm sorry I misunderstood... The only breeders for budgies that I KNOW of, is the Birds Exotic Place where I got my other 2 budgies.. They actually seem to be better, but have their moments !! Still trying to gain their trust, I think Little Man, told them to fear me or something  as if when I open the cage door he says "RUNNN EVERYBODY RUNNNN MONSTEEEERRR" hahaha and they follow. Baby Blue is coming out of his shell more than the others but still doesn't trust me completely yet, but eats out of my hands now which is a great improvement Thank you again so much! |
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Post by Hezz on Aug 31, 2012 0:24:09 GMT
As the older budgie and the first there, the young ones will take some of his apprehension on board. That's natural. You're welcome. |
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make sure we get some more pictures soon 
as if when I open the cage door he says "RUNNN EVERYBODY RUNNNN MONSTEEEERRR" hahaha and they follow. Baby Blue is coming out of his shell more than the others but still doesn't trust me completely yet, but eats out of my hands now which is a great improvement