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Post by Captain Howdy on Oct 26, 2012 10:52:36 GMT
Not sure whether to post this here or genetics or breeding or exhibition lol. So feel free to move if it is in the wrong place. As some of you have seen I have a nest of clearbody chicks currently, my intention is to breed the blue series I currently have only green series, bred from my clearbody hen and lacewing cock. I intend to keep some of this chicks and breed them to blue series Lacewings to produce (hopefully) lacewings and clearbodies but I am not 100% on the genetics as I have read clearbody is dominant to Ino? I am looking to produce Lacewings with pure body colour and deep markings and Clearbodies with again pure body colour and as little on the rump as possible with very defined markings. From the chicks I currently have I will be keeping them all through their first moult, but was wondering what you would be looking for in a bird to produce what I am after? I assume I would want to keep back the ones with the most defined markings and as little colouring on the rump as possible? Which is better to keep back if none of the birds has both? Just an idea of the chicks:
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Post by samwiseg on Oct 26, 2012 11:01:36 GMT
Not sure as to what you would need to do I'm afraid, but I had to post a comment as I have been admiring your birds, they are BEAUTIFUL!
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Post by Hezz on Oct 26, 2012 11:24:45 GMT
Lets move it to genetics and see what answers you get.
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Oct 28, 2012 15:25:24 GMT
It a good decision to keep all chicks until their first molt, which will pay eventually.
In terms of what you need, you must be aware that Clearbody mutation is sex-linked and recessive. So hens cannot be split for Clearbody. In all rare mutations, a lot of test mating is required sometimes, especially if you don't know the birds history. Some Clearbody breeders avoid using Inos as it can reduce the body color. Keeping one Normal bird in pairs would increase the bird size and improve the colors, but it will also increase the breeding times and attempts. Also some Normals will appear. But it is all worth waiting for as the Clearbodies produced this way will have sharp black markings, the ultimate goal in breeding Clearbodies. Also it is the shortest route towards maximum exhibition quality. Anyhow, a safe start is to pair either Clearbody cock or hen to an Ino. Another thing to remember while breeding rare mutations is that it is straightforward to pick a hen but it is always tricky when it comes to cocks because they can be split for mutations not visible.
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Oct 28, 2012 15:32:28 GMT
Here is what I could find. Try to be creative with genetic calculator 1,0 Texas Clearbody x 0,1 Texas Clearbody 50 % 1,0 Texas Clearbody 50 % 0,1 Texas Clearbody 1,0 Texas Clearbody x 0,1 Normal 50 % 1,0 Normal/Texas Clearbody 50 % 0,1 Texas Clearbody 1,0 Normal x 0,1 Texas Clearbody 50 % 1,0 Normal/Texas Clearbody 50 % 0,1 Normal 1,0 Normal/Texas Clearbody x 0,1 Texas Clearbody 25 % 1,0 Texas Clearbody 25 % 1,0 Normal/Texas Clearbody 25 % 0,1 Texas Clearbody 25 % 0,1 Normal 1,0 Normal/Texas Clearbody x 0,1 Normal 25 % 1,0 Normal/Texas Clearbody 25 % 1,0 Normal 25 % 0,1 Texas Clearbody 25 % 0,1 Normal 1,0 Texas Clearbody x 0,1 Ino 50 % 1,0 Texas Clearbody/Ino 50 % 0,1 Texas Clearbody 1,0 Ino x 0,1 Texas Clearbody 50 % 1,0 Texas Clearbody/Ino 50 % 0,1 Ino 1,0 Texas Clearbody/Ino x 0,1 Ino 25 % 1,0 Texas Clearbody/Ino 25 % 1,0 Ino 25 % 0,1 Texas Clearbody 25 % 0,1 Ino 1,0 Texas Clearbody/Ino x 0,1 Texas Clearbody 25 % 1,0 Texas Clearbody 25 % 1,0 Texas Clearbody/Ino 25 % 0,1 Texas Clearbody 25 % 0,1 Ino 1,0 Normal/Texas Clearbody x 0,1 Ino 50% 1,0 Normal/Texas Clearbody/Ino 25% 0,1 Texas Clearbody 25% 0,1 Normal 1,0 Texas Clearbody/Ino x 0,1 Normal 50 % 1,0 Normal/Texas Clearbody/Ino 25 % 0,1 Texas Clearbody 25 % 0,1 Ino
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