Extreme Bird Training

[BudgiesBuddy]

Nov 8, 2012 22:19:10 GMT stace said:

I've got my bird to come to me by calling him only. His reward is my company, and a nose bop. Sometimes he takes a little while to do it. If he's busy doing something else, he wants to finish up whatever he's doing before he flies over to me. It's like the human version of, "Yes, I'll be there in a minute".

I bet it must be a lot of fun Stace
And how is the address learning going on?

[stace]

Nov 9, 2012 2:38:00 GMT BudgiesBuddy said:

Nov 8, 2012 22:19:10 GMT stace said:

I've got my bird to come to me by calling him only. His reward is my company, and a nose bop. Sometimes he takes a little while to do it. If he's busy doing something else, he wants to finish up whatever he's doing before he flies over to me. It's like the human version of, "Yes, I'll be there in a minute".

I bet it must be a lot of fun Stace
And how is the address learning going on?

I've pretty much stopped teaching him set phrases to say. I know he can pick them up if I persist with it, but I don't have the time to do it.

Now he just picks up the things I say naturally to him, like "You're so naughty!" and "What are you doing, buddy?", or "Come on buds, in you pop".

[BudgiesBuddy]

He sounds like a home member, just like a kid

Would repeating the address in front of him work? I mean like other phrases. I once saw a bird talk trainer which records and plays the sentences continually. Must be vary handy for people who stay outdoors or at work most of the day

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Aye, Pavlov's the one. Classical conditioning requires the sound (conditioned stimulus) to be presented before the food (unconditioned stimulus) so that the animal learns anticipation and the response is a reflex that has to occur, however, for bird taming we present the reinforcement (food) before the bird comes to us, at least initially, so in a sense that's more like operant condition because the bird has the choice of whether or not to come and the way it operates on the environment could be likened to using its weight to activate a lever once it has learned that standing on us gets a reward, as if its weight on our arm or hand is activating the presentation of the reward. Munchy was doing that on Tuesday.

The thing I saw was mentioning full on not giving them any food other than from the hand when teaching them but made no mention of what to do with the food once you got to the stage where you could just offer one seed, so I wasn't sure whether the bird would have food in the cage or not, I certainly hope so.

BJ, you mention rewarding every time, which I accept the basis of, but Munchy has a tendency to choose to come over to me when I don't have anything to reward him with. Often he'll turn back because I'm slouching too much for his liking and he wants to be on my head, but then when I hold my arm up he'll come over. He sits there whilst I talk to him and until I have to encourage him to leave so that I can work. If I have millet, though, even if I hide it behind my back after he's a had a bite, that's all he's interested in. Thus why I like holding one of his toys so that he can sit on me and play.

[Bird Junky]

[/quote]You have a point BJ but it was a live event
I was wondering maybe she can smell the owner, or she was hungry and knew the owner has food or they practiced a lot [/quote]

Hi The give away is the fact that the cameras did not follow the bird
throughout the flight. There are two cuts the first is good but not perfect the second just a standard cut. Audiences have been brainwashed over the years, that the "camera never lies". It only became live for the audience. From the door to the stage. Before that they were watching a tape. Just like we were.....B.J.

[BudgiesBuddy]

I guess we are on totally different pages here BJ
This was a live broadcast in America to millions of people. Also it was a talent competition where people had to vote for the winner. Why would they support one contestant, which eventually didn't win either. I don't see how it was a camera trick
My question however still remains that can she hear the owner from that far? What is their hearing ability?

[Bird Junky]

Hi The Parrot was included for the publicity & entertainment value.
That parrot has been seen by thousands of people world wide.
Many of whom will now watch the show out of curiosity. There
are more give away's re, the tape but I'll leave it now. Let TV keep
its secrets......B.J

[BudgiesBuddy]

Yes it's better to leave the TV to TV experts, just tell me anything you know about this type of bird training, as you said that have been a bird trainer in the past.

[Bird Junky]

Hi It's every bird trainer's wish, to own a bird that will make
them rich. It's not that they are anything special themselves.
It's the bird that's the key to success. Every now & again a bird
comes along that is so eager to learn, is quick to catch on & just
lives to please you. That teaching it anything is the proverbial,
"Piece if cake".
For instance, when an act comes along like the, "Britain,s
Got Talent". The girl with the dancing dog. The young trainer will probably never find & train another dog as good again....
As for how it's done, I've already explained it's just a big Step-up.
You will need some bits of Falconry equipment. (expensive)
when you take your bird out free flying....B.J.