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Post by Hezz on Apr 25, 2013 2:01:17 GMT
How about iodine/betadine, BB? Are these accessible for you?
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Apr 25, 2013 2:13:08 GMT
How about iodine/betadine, BB? Are these accessible for you? Betadine is available here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 10:00:28 GMT
BB, can you get milton sterilising fluid? It's for cleaning baby bottles so is very good and safe. That's if you are looking for something to clean the cages or aviary and equipment.
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Apr 25, 2013 13:35:29 GMT
BB, can you get milton sterilising fluid? It's for cleaning baby bottles so is very good and safe. That's if you are looking for something to clean the cages or aviary and equipment. That's not available here.
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Apr 25, 2013 13:36:21 GMT
If you mean this one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2013 17:25:53 GMT
That's it BB. Can't you get that? What about false teeth tablets? Steradent they dissolve in water to sterilise false teeth.
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Post by nat on Apr 25, 2013 17:35:35 GMT
Thanks everyone. I really want to treat it but I don't know what is safe for them Seeing as they are mother and daughter, is it possible for Lilly to have passed it onto Georgia? Nicola I've made an observation on that exact thing this week. I rehomed a mother and daughter budgie last year. The mother had a cere that had too much growth, however the daughter didn't. However in time the mothers cere came right of its own accord despite the fact she was never a healthy looking bird. Maybe as she was getting a more varied diet? This week her other 2 daughters have been given to me as they needed rehoming. They both have overgrown ceres as their mother did at first. I think they have not had much of a varied diet lately. However perhaps this does mean that a genetic propensity to this condition exists depending on certain other factors? I have noticed occasionally the ceres can get like this if my hens have become overweight. I haven't ever applied any ointments to remove the cere overgrowth as the article I posted says to do. Perhaps thats only necessary if the overgrowth covers the nares and interupts breathing? But have found that it generally sorts itself out apart from 2 birds (from several with this condition over the years) who had kidney problems.
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Jan 12, 2012 22:54:32 GMT
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Post by Nicola on Apr 25, 2013 23:54:49 GMT
Ok, thanks Nat so this is nothing to worry about? When you said that sometimes they get it because they are overweight, well I must confess that Lilly is a tad over weight. She eats that same as everyone else, but she's just so lazy! Is there anyway I can put her on a 'budgie diet' that doesn't require changing food because I have another female, Tess, who's in the aviary as well and she's a bit underweight I think. Any suggestions? Thanks Nicola
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Post by Hezz on Apr 26, 2013 1:42:44 GMT
Smudge is lazy too, Nicola. And while she lost a heap of weight after her operation and moulting, I can see now she has put it all back on. I was hoping to keep her a little trimmer, but I was away for a week and half and she is a pudgy Smudge again now. I have tried just about everything to get the weight off her ....... she is just so bone-lazy!
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Post by Nicola on Apr 26, 2013 4:02:11 GMT
Good to know its not only Lilly then! Lilly is just so chubby when I catch her, whereas Tess feels too thin and like I said I don't want to cut back on food seeing as Lilly is the only chubby one and Tess definately doesn't need to lose any weight. Nicola
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Apr 26, 2013 7:31:05 GMT
That's it BB. Can't you get that? What about false teeth tablets? Steradent they dissolve in water to sterilise false teeth. Nope
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Post by nat on Apr 26, 2013 14:51:04 GMT
Ok, thanks Nat so this is nothing to worry about? When you said that sometimes they get it because they are overweight, well I must confess that Lilly is a tad over weight. She eats that same as everyone else, but she's just so lazy! Is there anyway I can put her on a 'budgie diet' that doesn't require changing food because I have another female, Tess, who's in the aviary as well and she's a bit underweight I think. Any suggestions? Thanks Nicola Well, I wouldn't like to say for sure, but its something I don't worry about! I've had the 2 rehomes with pop out ceres on vits in the water all week and one of the hens ceres looks like it might be starting to lose bits of the overgrowth. I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but they were crazy for the soft iodine block for the first couple of days. Its a difficult one....the budgie diet with 2 differing birds. I have the same problem in my aviary. Some of the girls are like coloured soft balls, but some are the correct weight. I did try separating my 4 fattest girls once but they were so lazy and just sat around in the cage I decided it best they went back to the aviary and moved a little! At the moment I'm reducing the seed offered (usually its an unlimited amount) and offering instead unlimited eggfood (the moist stuff you don't have to dampen and it doesn't go off from Junglegold) PS1 pro mix plus, loads of eucalyptus branches and now the willow is leafing up they are getting plenty of that plus dandylions and chick weed from the garden. It really is a bit of an experiment though. But I think even the slim ones will get enough healthy food from the leaves and bark and veg to not lose weight. If they are in an aviary perhaps you could put the seed somewhere that would require them to fly a distance to it rather than climb or hop to it? Maybe on the floor? Then put the healthy stuff near the perches. The slim one won't have any trouble flying up and down to get the feed and the fat one will either have to make the effort to go there or just get the veg :-)
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Post by Nicola on Apr 26, 2013 23:50:34 GMT
Thanks for the info Nat I have the seed containers on the mesh at the moment where they have to fly to it. The only problem with putting the seed at the bottom is that when they poop it goes straight into it Nicola
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Post by Hezz on Apr 27, 2013 2:16:30 GMT
I tried taking their seed away when I gave them their fresh grass. Didn't make any difference, I am sure. They love their grass and always go straight for it when I hang up their bundles, but when I took the seed away and returned it later, they all just made up for the lost time. I think they eat less seed with all the grass they are getting, but I have reverted to sending Smudge flying off after the others on every possible occasion. She won't eat less or exercise on her own, so it is up to me to be the boot-camp sergeant! I do worry for her long-term health though.
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Post by nat on Apr 30, 2013 16:15:46 GMT
Lol, its a bit of a nightmare with these fatties! I worry about mine longterm as well Hezz. They are just so lazy that instaed of flying down to eat they just get their husbands to collect food for them and bring it back for them Failing that they use the ladders I have to have for the french moult guy instead of flying. I've just been cleaning the aviary and watched them fly a bit while I was doing that and some are really not great at it despite having the space. I've concluded it might be an indoor bird problem as they don't burn the calories keeping warm that outdoor budgies must do during the cooler nights. The 8 ourdoor budgies I have in quarantine are already putting on too much weight in less than 2 weeks!!!!
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