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Post by skysmum on Jul 26, 2013 17:44:55 GMT
Please . It has always been my intention to breed Ted and Inca, however, Inca has been in breeding condition for a good couple of months if not longer but Ted has been in a very big moult during this time, so that coupled with my holidays getting in the way its been a no go. Inca is now going OUT of condition . My question is, will i be able to bring Inca into condition again so soon after this session, say in about a month's time when Ted has finished his moult and is in better condition himself. Thankyou
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Apr 21, 2012 20:15:21 GMT
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Post by marleen4 on Jul 26, 2013 21:13:37 GMT
I don't quite understand your question. I live in a part of the world (New Zealand) where my outside birds are ready to breed most of the year. I hang their nest boxes in the aviary in August and take them out again in April. They may have 2-3 nests a year, depending on age and condition. I on the whole leave this up to them, they know what they are doing and I tend to avoid too much interference. Their breeding season appears to rely on the hours of sunshine (i.e. light) during the day. It helps when they are well fed and healthy at the start of the season. My question is, what do you mean with breeding condition, and how do you know she is going out of condition? How would you bring her back into condition? Based on my experience there should be no issue with her having a nest a bit later.
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Post by skysmum on Jul 26, 2013 21:37:41 GMT
I don't quite understand your question. I live in a part of the world (New Zealand) where my outside birds are ready to breed most of the year. I hang their nest boxes in the aviary in August and take them out again in April. They may have 2-3 nests a year, depending on age and condition. I on the whole leave this up to them, they know what they are doing and I tend to avoid too much interference. Their breeding season appears to rely on the hours of sunshine (i.e. light) during the day. It helps when they are well fed and healthy at the start of the season. My question is, what do you mean with breeding condition, and how do you know she is going out of condition? How would you bring her back into condition? Based on my experience there should be no issue with her having a nest a bit later. Wow now IM confused . I thought that the female had to be in breeding condition as in having a brown cere and the male with his bright blue cere and no moulting. I dont want to free breed in my aviary as my other birds are brothers and sisters. Inca is a new bird and i want to pair her up with one of my existing male's, this i will do in a breeding cage with just the two of them. As she is now coming OUT of condition she wont want to breed and if she does the eggs may not be fertile. Sorry i dont know how else to explain it, i have bred a couple of times before, both times with a pair in a cage and only when they were both in breeding condition. I guess i just need to know if i can bring her back into breeding condition so soon after she has come out of it as her cere is now getting lighter. Thanks Marleen
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Post by nat on Jul 26, 2013 21:44:40 GMT
Hi Skysmum. Are they kept indoors or out? If they are indoors I have found that they will come in and out of condition all year round regardless of the season so its probably a bit more random than the birds kept outdoors which are relying on the seasons light and weather to breed. You can regulate this with the light that you give them if kept indoors. More light hours are likely to bring the hen back in season quicker than she would do without the light hours. Also you can regulate moults a little by changing light hours of indoor birds even whilst its a hot time of year by lessening the light hours according to my avian vet who advised me about a bird in a perpetual moult. Indoor birds will breed happily all through the winter given the correct daylight hours. What has worked for me at all times of year of indoor breeding is to increase lighting gradually aiming at being on at 5.30- 6am until 9-9.30 pm so shadowing the natural light outside :-) It seems to get them all at it!
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Post by skysmum on Jul 26, 2013 21:57:34 GMT
Hi Skysmum. Are they kept indoors or out? If they are indoors I have found that they will come in and out of condition all year round regardless of the season so its probably a bit more random than the birds kept outdoors which are relying on the seasons light and weather to breed. You can regulate this with the light that you give them if kept indoors. More light hours are likely to bring the hen back in season quicker than she would do without the light hours. Also you can regulate moults a little by changing light hours of indoor birds even whilst its a hot time of year by lessening the light hours according to my avian vet who advised me about a bird in a perpetual moult. Indoor birds will breed happily all through the winter given the correct daylight hours. What has worked for me at all times of year of indoor breeding is to increase lighting gradually aiming at being on at 5.30- 6am until 9-9.30 pm so shadowing the natural light outside :-) It seems to get them all at it! Thanks Nat, that's great, i just cant seem to get them in the right condition together, if you know what i mean . They are outside at the moment but i will bring this pair indoors into a breeding cage, Ted is almost over this HUGE moult so i need to build him up for a bit then i shall bring them in and perform the light trick for Inca . I know there is no guarantees but id like to try with this pair.
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Apr 21, 2012 20:15:21 GMT
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Post by marleen4 on Jul 26, 2013 23:07:02 GMT
Good luck Skymum, I trust it will all work out for Ted and Inca. I suppose we all do thing a bit differently, and have different experiences as a result. All the best!
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Jul 27, 2013 17:26:01 GMT
Their breeding cycle is of 47 days, but they need favorable conditions and high protein and high fat foods.
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Post by skysmum on Jul 27, 2013 18:23:44 GMT
Good luck Skymum, I trust it will all work out for Ted and Inca. I suppose we all do thing a bit differently, and have different experiences as a result. All the best! Thankyou marleen .
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Post by skysmum on Jul 27, 2013 18:24:52 GMT
Their breeding cycle is of 47 days, but they need favorable conditions and high protein and high fat foods. Thankyou BB .
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Post by Hezz on Jul 28, 2013 0:23:42 GMT
Thanks Nat, that's great, i just cant seem to get them in the right condition together, if you know what i mean . They are outside at the moment but i will bring this pair indoors into a breeding cage, Ted is almost over this HUGE moult so i need to build him up for a bit then i shall bring them in and perform the light trick for Inca . I know there is no guarantees but id like to try with this pair. It's a conspiracy, Skysmum. But seriously, I wish you all the best getting these two together.
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Jan 12, 2012 22:54:32 GMT
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Post by Nicola on Jul 28, 2013 8:03:38 GMT
Sorry, I cant help with your question But when Ted and Inca finally get the ball rolling, I DEMAND for a breeding journal to be created!!! Nicola
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Jan 12, 2012 22:54:32 GMT
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Post by Nicola on Jul 28, 2013 8:05:03 GMT
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Post by skysmum on Jul 28, 2013 17:07:50 GMT
Thanks Nat, that's great, i just cant seem to get them in the right condition together, if you know what i mean . They are outside at the moment but i will bring this pair indoors into a breeding cage, Ted is almost over this HUGE moult so i need to build him up for a bit then i shall bring them in and perform the light trick for Inca . I know there is no guarantees but id like to try with this pair. It's a conspiracy, Skysmum. But seriously, I wish you all the best getting these two together. Tell me about it Hezz , im sure it is a conspiracy. I swear they look at me some days as much to say, nope no go, sorry . If it eventually happens it will be a miracle or the immaculate conception that's for sure.
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Post by skysmum on Jul 28, 2013 17:10:08 GMT
Sorry, I cant help with your question But when Ted and Inca finally get the ball rolling, I DEMAND for a breeding journal to be created!!! Nicola Thankyou Nicola, and don't worry IF they get their act together eventually, everyone will know about it .
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Jul 30, 2013 17:23:21 GMT
Their breeding cycle is of 47 days, but they need favorable conditions and high protein and high fat foods. Thankyou BB . You're welcome
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