Oh Charlie... (or is it Woody?)

[birdguhl]

Can whoever reads this please send positive vibes to my little flock because for the nth time in the last 6 months or so I am going to bed worried.

Today Charlie did the collapse thing for the first time ever but because of the current 'collapsing' thread chat I just chuckled and didn't think anything of it.

Then this evening I was more concerned when both Charlie and Woody slept most of the time. They would normally be very active at this time flying, chattering and generally interacting with the other two and their surroundings.

Charlie was fluffed up, and was very irritable with Woody - not like him at all. And one or both of them was producing white watery droppings (mostly urine, I suspect). They haven't eaten anything unusual or in unusual quantities today.

I have some Baytril so I gave Charlie a dose. Don't know if this was the right thing to do or not. I shut him in the cage but then Woody couldn't get in. Latterly Woody seemed a bit more like himself, interrogating some raffia and showing it who's boss.

I opened up the cage desperately hoping that I would still be able to get both of them in. Charlie went out and sat hunched up near the cage. An hour later everyone else was ready to get to sleep including me. Eventually Charlie did go back in, but as I type this I can hear them having chittering altercations. Again, not normal. I have set up a infrared lamp for extra warmth. Both of them have since produced normal looking droppings.

I am back to thinking that for definite these budgies are in cahoots to ruin my life, or bankrupt me at the very least.

[Learner]

They certainly can be worrying critters when their pattern of behaviour changes or they are having an off day.

Here's hoping Charlie is back to normal by the morning and when you read this response. Probably "something he's eaten"... as my mother wuld say.

I have one bird, Connie, who often concerns me as she presents some very unusual behaviour some days..

[sweetpea]

Positive vibes being sent from here. Your little flock are lucky you are so observant & quick to respond to any changes. I hope it's just an off day & all will be well again tomorrow.

[ffiscool]

I hope all ok. Do you think anything to do with weather change? Or was it not hot there yesterday? I

have been out nearly all day and Bailey seemed fine. He must be knackered as we got up 6am and now it's after 1.30 Saturday morn. He came out briefly and went back in and As I drew the curtains he crouched nearly horizontal on a perch. Now whether he sleeps that way, I don't know.

But my point is, that's not something I have seen him do before. Maybe something in the air.

Have C and W been eating ok?

I hope that when you wake up, all back to normal.

[budgiefriend]

Charlie and Woody are just too cute to be sick. Hope they are more like themselves in the morning.

[tinksmum]

Praying its just an off day, sending you big hugs and good vibes, try and stay positive, the poops returning to normal surely must be a good sign xx

[samwiseg]

More positive vibes being sent post haste - just out of curiosity are they in moult atm? As sometimes that can make them behave differently and were they fed any veg the day before?

Here's wishing they are better this morning, please keep us updated x

[birdguhl]

Thank you all, good budgie friends!

Charlie is definitely not himself this morning, BUT the poos are still looking more normal, and he has just had a big feed of millet. He had a wee lively spell earlier but otherwise he has just been sitting looking a bit miserable. I am just going to give them seed today and not the usual veg. He did eat some yesterday but not a huge amount. I'll not give them any today.

He is not in a big moult just now but I have seen a few fluffy feathers and one or two big ones in the last week or so. Luee has just had an enormous moult. I get a bit anxious about moults because of the Beak and Feather Disease risk.

Woody seems okay - just a bit puzzled about why Charlie is not as much fun as usual.

I am just going to have to sit out the next day or two and see how things go. I will struggle to get him to a vet in the next few days, and in any case I am pretty sure I would just get the usual Baytril prescription.
The stuff I have got is about 7 weeks old. Does anyone know if it would still be okay to use?

Thanks!

[Hezz]

The Baytril should be okay if it has been kept either in the fridge or below 30 degrees C .... oh, of course, silly me! Head slap! You are Scotland. I'm guessing you don't know what that sort of temperature is!