Oct 7, 2011 19:59:02 GMT
ianb
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Post by ianb on Oct 8, 2011 9:36:50 GMT
Hi everyone i have a couple of young cocks off a normal grey cock thats split for albino and an opline grey pied hen,what are the chances of them being split ino??
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Oct 8, 2011 12:33:03 GMT
I think the budgies are split for their parents’ mutations and not for the grandparents’ mutations. But I am not sure.
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Oct 7, 2011 17:15:09 GMT
rachel
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Post by rachel on Oct 8, 2011 12:41:25 GMT
Split Ino cock- normal hen You will get
normal hens ino hens split ino cocks normal cocks
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Post by nat on Oct 8, 2011 12:59:47 GMT
I think the budgies are split for their parents’ mutations and not for the grandparents’ mutations. But I am not sure. I don't think split ino bird would throw another split ino bird either
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Oct 8, 2011 14:34:58 GMT
I think the budgies are split for their parents’ mutations and not for the grandparents’ mutations. But I am not sure. I don't think split ino bird would throw another split ino bird either Good.
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Post by rickyanderson on Oct 11, 2011 10:29:32 GMT
Split ino cocks can produce split inos in their off spring but you would only be able to tell by test breeding
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Oct 11, 2011 10:52:08 GMT
If this is right, then I think basically it comes down to the point that the cock bird is carrying ino gen on X chromosome or Y chromosome. RIPbudgies will have a perfect answer for this.
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Post by rickyanderson on Oct 11, 2011 11:01:06 GMT
Its too much for me to type out on my phone. But I can assure you this is the case as with any other sex linked variety
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Oct 11, 2011 11:04:53 GMT
That must be right if you are so sure about it. I just meant that RIPbudgies can explain the exact genetic reason that why it is the case with some cocks and not all.
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Oct 6, 2011 7:41:27 GMT
Marianne Marlow
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Oct 11, 2011 11:06:19 GMT
I wish I knew so much about genetics. I am sadly lacking in info on this subject!
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Post by rickyanderson on Oct 11, 2011 11:21:19 GMT
That must be right if you are so sure about it. I just meant that RIPbudgies can explain the exact genetic reason that why it is the case with some cocks and not all. Sorry I misunderstood you, with any sex linked variety the cock can be split the hen cannot. This is because as you say the cock carries the x and y the hen only carries the x. The ino and all other sex linked varieties are on the x. Hope that makes sense
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Oct 11, 2011 14:35:25 GMT
That's all right. You are right. This will be the case with any sex-linked recessive gene. For example, if we have a normal cock and a normal hen and they produce an ino chick, the gene would have come from father and the chick will be female. Because the ino gene is the one which is carried on the sex chromosome or X. The only thing which I want to know that how can we genetically explain that a split ino cock can produce split inos, as you said earlier.
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Oct 11, 2011 21:42:26 GMT
brianbatey
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Post by brianbatey on Oct 11, 2011 21:48:12 GMT
That's all right. You are right. This will be the case with any sex-linked recessive gene. For example, if we have a normal cock and a normal hen and they produce an ino chick, the gene would have come from father and the chick will be female. Because the ino gene is the one which is carried on the sex chromosome or X. The only thing which I want to know that how can we genetically explain that a split ino cock can produce split inos, as you said earlier. The cock bird carries two "x" chormosomes (the hens one "x" and one "y"). From a pair where the cock is split ino where the chick is a cock bird then one "x" comes from the hen which we know is normal otherwise it would be a visual ino and one from the cock. If this one is carrying the ino gene then the chick is also split ino, if we get the one without the ino gene (and it's 50/50) then the bird isn't split. But as has already been stated, you've got to breed from the bird to determine if it's carrying the ino gene. Hopt this helps!
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Oct 9, 2011 4:10:09 GMT
tariq
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Post by tariq on Oct 12, 2011 4:37:25 GMT
A good learning discussion.
But it is true that split ino normal cock can produce split ino cock and also non split ino cock if paired with normal hen. The only way to know is to breed them.
Thanks,
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Oct 7, 2011 21:27:38 GMT
nev90
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Post by nev90 on Oct 12, 2011 4:41:13 GMT
A spit ino cock mated to a normal hen will produce 25% ino female 25% normal female 25% normal split ino males 25% normal males
The only way to tell which of the cocks are split for ino and which are not would be to breed from them
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