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Post by Hezz on Jun 24, 2022 0:41:37 GMT
I don't want to throw a spanner in the works or make things overly complicated but I just wanted to pass on to you the info I obtained direct from Natures Answer regarding their milk thistle products and concentrations. I wanted to start Bramble on milk thistle but was confused by the different strengths available, I wanted to buy the 2000mg but seemed only able to get the 585mg. One company I contacted suggested that the 2000mg product had been relabelled as 585mg to meet EU regulations but that in fact the strength hadn't changed at all. That info led me down the proverbial rabbit hole so I decided to ask Natures Answer directly and having checked the product information documents at their end they confirmed that yes, what was originally sold as 2000mg in the UK has in fact been relabelled as 585mg and that the strength/concentration of the 2 products are identical. It's all to do with raw product versus extract and the active ingredients per 2ml dose I think. The response I received from Natures Answer is copied below. I'm therefore using the dosage recommended by Hezz even though my product is labelled as 585mg. As it's a herbal remedy I don't think giving it in higher doses would cause too much harm but I wanted to pass the info on in case it helps, especially as it seems to contradict sweetpea vets dosing advice. We do use different labels regarding US and EU regulations. The product in each is absolutely the same. I have direct access to regulatory documents, so I am 100% confident that the formulas are the same. Please see the attached master packaging records that show the bulk product code number being '5510NA' for both the AF108 (American labeled product) and AF108I (International labeled product) bottle fills. The 195mg is noted as well as the 2,000mg on the formulas, which unfortunately I cannot share with you. I confirmed with our production manager that the 585mg indicated on the International label is the 195mg per two ml (one serving) and then multiplied by 3 for the recommended daily amount. The 2,000 mg is the amount of dry herb that was used to manufacture each serving. Lot numbers change with each batch, but product code numbers will not, unless there is a formula change.
In a nutshell, please refer to the label indicating 2000 mg when dosing for your feather babies!
So people don’t have to keep jumping back and forth. Since I have just re-read it for myself, I say take no notice of what number is on the bottle and stick to three drops into 100mls of water. That’s what I was happy with in the first place but then confused myself by trying to over-think it. Head slap over here, please! 🙂
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Marianne Marlow
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Jun 24, 2022 7:53:03 GMT
3 drops in 100ml of water it is
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Post by jellybean on Jun 24, 2022 8:16:10 GMT
3 drops in 100ml of water it is Is that for the 585mg bottle Marianne?
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Marianne Marlow
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Jun 24, 2022 8:47:20 GMT
Ummm... Hezz? I thought it was, jellybean 3 drops in 100ml of water it is Is that for the 585mg bottle Marianne?
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Post by criswell on Jun 24, 2022 15:08:34 GMT
I didn't get any reply at all Hezz! I had forgot that Willowsmum had already asked them. So 585mg and 2000mg are the same Mystery had already been solved.
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Post by Hezz on Jun 26, 2022 1:34:45 GMT
3 drops in 100ml of water it is Is that for the 585mg bottle Marianne? Yes! 😁
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Post by Hezz on Jun 26, 2022 1:37:57 GMT
I didn't get any reply at all Hezz! I had forgot that Willowsmum had already asked them. So 585mg and 2000mg are the same Mystery had already been solved. That’s a bit rude, that they didn’t bother to answer. It could be very important to people.
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Post by criswell on Jun 26, 2022 13:11:20 GMT
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Post by ladybird on Jun 26, 2022 20:51:26 GMT
Would it be OK to mix up a few days of the milk thistle and keep it in the fridge? Has anyone done this?
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Post by Hezz on Jun 27, 2022 1:12:12 GMT
No idea; I’m not sure what would be gained by doing so.
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Post by jellybean on Aug 30, 2022 16:29:26 GMT
Sorry to bring up the subject of Milk Thistle AGAIN 🙄 This is the MT I have been using for the boys.... I was running out so placed an order with the same company, for the same stuff, and this is what they sent... As if I wasn't confused enough with all this MT jargon. Can someone explain the differences.
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Post by lemonora on Aug 30, 2022 18:16:26 GMT
On the subject of milk thistle, I once heard a doctor say that the main useful ingredient in milk thistle stops being active after 2-3 months, he was talking about human liver health, and then I actually realized on my birds some symptoms if I exceeded that time, I also searched a little and found a research that said the same thing so now i open a new bottle every 2 months
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Post by Hezz on Aug 31, 2022 1:02:21 GMT
Sorry to bring up the subject of Milk Thistle AGAIN 🙄 This is the MT I have been using for the boys.... I was running out so placed an order with the same company, for the same stuff, and this is what they sent... As if I wasn't confused enough with all this MT jargon. Can someone explain the differences. jellybean, there is no difference, so don’t stress. They are the same thing, you’ve just got the new packaging. I noticed this on my last bottle as well, the labelling is different but the info and strength are the same. It may have something to do with new labelling rules, or it may simply be that they are trying to be more accurate in their labelling, who knows but it is the same product that you are used to using.
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Post by jellybean on Aug 31, 2022 6:46:16 GMT
Phew!!! Thanks Hezz, I appreciate the help.
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Post by Hezz on Sept 1, 2022 0:21:50 GMT
Not a problem.
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