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Post by Ira on Nov 14, 2021 18:57:52 GMT
He's starting to break out! Come on, Sam!
It's like how Gwen is totally fearless about people but doesn't want to be anywhere except on a person.
Hopefully he will gradually get more comfortable. Indie took ages, although he was food orientated at least.
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Post by starrymist on Nov 15, 2021 16:49:54 GMT
It is strange isn’t it. Is he having the same seed he used to? Yes, the same seed. Once he starts he’s fine, it seems to be more the doing it by himself that’s scary. But he’s very hard to interpret! 🤷🏻♀️ I think he slept on his millet last night judging by where his droppings were so maybe that’s progress of sorts… (yes, I’m grasping at straws here!). He has a piece literally by his head if he turned it slightly & another at the end of his perch. Plus a seed pot (1 of 3 in the cage currently) literally right behind where he mostly sits.
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Post by starrymist on Nov 15, 2021 16:51:18 GMT
He's starting to break out! Come on, Sam! I think he’s gone back in again! 🤦🏻♀️ Sometimes I’m more optimistic than other times…..
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Post by ffiscool on Nov 15, 2021 16:53:24 GMT
Come on Sam….
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Post by skysmum on Nov 15, 2021 19:41:27 GMT
Sam is lovely starrymist , i'm so pleased you have a new friend, i'm sure you will soon both form a lovely bond
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Post by starrymist on Nov 16, 2021 16:50:50 GMT
Sam is lovely starrymist , i'm so pleased you have a new friend, i'm sure you will soon both form a lovely bond I hope so. Things don’t seem to be changing much day by day unfortunately. But I hope we’ll get there, maybe we’re just taking the (very) scenic route……
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Post by Ira on Nov 16, 2021 18:28:19 GMT
It can be that way.
Munchy considered us flock very quickly and began trying out words shortly after a week or so of being with us, yet I would say we didn't fully trust and understand each other for about 4 years.
Indie was always nervous about coming out of the cage and infected Yuki with that, so I kept having to chase them both out to exercise, and bribe them out by putting their food outside the cage, but now he's super eager to come out and stretch his wings. Probably took him a good 6 months to feel comfortable coming out.
Sam will get there, with all your love and patience for him. x
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Post by starrymist on Nov 17, 2021 8:50:26 GMT
I would be much happier if he were to eat by himself, or move around the cage or cheep. It’s 2 weeks today since he arrived & he’s only eaten by himself 4 or 5 times.
He cheeps loudly if he sees a bird flying outside but that’s it - I tried playing budgie sounds yesterday but he didn’t react at all (& he’s definitely not deaf because literally every single household sound he stops to assess if it’s ok!).
And he mostly sits in 1 place all day, or occasionally, another spot but they’re the only 2 places. He hasn’t explored his cage at all. It’s all quite a worry. 😕 I just want him to be happy & relaxed.
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Post by ffiscool on Nov 17, 2021 10:11:22 GMT
it is a worry when you have that, but the fact he has even eaten by himself is good. I cannot remember exactly how long, but Bailey didn't move for a very long time or do much. I remember holding up water on a teaspoon to him.
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Post by samwiseg on Nov 17, 2021 17:01:42 GMT
I think ffiscool makes a good point, you don't know what was pre you and it could be that he is just a very calm bird. Besides, you have just come out of a very long relationship with a budgie that you knew inside out and visa-a-versa so it will seem a little strange to start with. But have hope! He will come round but in his timescale Gentle encouragement is key
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Post by starrymist on Nov 17, 2021 19:15:54 GMT
I think ffiscool makes a good point, you don't know what was pre you and it could be that he is just a very calm bird. Besides, you have jyst come out of a very long relationship with a budgie that you knew inside out and visa-a-versa so it will seem a little strange to start with. But have hope! He will come round but in his timescale Gentle encouragement is key You’re right, I’m just a worrier/ in a tizz! He’s not what I was expecting I guess. It’s been a long time since I had a different bird. I think a lot of what’s confusing me is that he seems confident in some ways - our stepping up is great (I struggled to get him to step down today!), we do a lot of winking at each other etc, yet it seems that ‘basics’ such as eating by himself or just doing budgie things (tweeting etc) is too much for him. It’s also pretty stressful as I don’t know if he’s eating enough. I’d like to work towards letting him come out but I feel that can’t happen till he’s doing other stuff for himself (any new sound or anything really seems to set him back into himself so I’m pretty sure taking him into the bathroom, ie a new environment would do that). Today I’ve been turning the cage 180 degrees every so often: that means if he wants to sit in his favoured spot, looking the same way then he also has to turn around, and *that* means he is literally in front of his seed pot! So far, he’s just stared at it a lot! 🤦🏻♀️
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Post by starrymist on Dec 1, 2021 16:53:29 GMT
Update time: There’s a little (teeny tiny) progress but not much change. I’m still mostly hand feeding him but I am starving him out a bit now (I have literally taken to counting how many seeds are consumed daily as that makes me feel better about pushing him, making sure he has roughly the same amount each day). He spends soooooo much time looking at his seed & he *can* do it but mostly isn’t. He did his 1st few chatter chirps the other evening & then was so shocked at himself he needed the rest of the day to recover! He’s also happier doing his feathers in front of me & he’s given me the odd response cheep. Playing budgie sounds now seems to relax him a bit, he is scared of the radio. He now responds to the words, ‘seed’, ‘millet’ & starting to with is name. But in other ways he’s really brave, not scared of hands etc. We don’t think he’s had much / any stimulation & he appears to not know about toys, veg etc & I don’t think he’s ever been let out of a cage. I haven’t let him out yet either. It feels like we’re a long way off that. Everything overwhelms him including toys etc & I want him to be comfortable doing budgie things & eating etc before I introduce anything else scary. So, there is a small amount of progress but it’s still quite stressful!
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Post by ffiscool on Dec 1, 2021 17:40:28 GMT
It’s good he’s not scared of your hands and also the odd response.
I think you’re probably right about his background, but he’ll realise soon he’s safe, I’m sure
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Post by ariella on Dec 1, 2021 21:01:36 GMT
Well done with your perseverance starrymist. I’m sure it will pay off and Sam sounds to be getting more brave slowly but surely. He’ll be chatting away in no time I hope.
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Post by samwiseg on Dec 1, 2021 22:30:45 GMT
Just an idea starrymist but have you thought of putting a mirror behind his seed pot? Perhaps he needs company to eat a bit more and seeing another bird do it (i.e himself) might prompt him to eat more? Just a thought
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