Oct 9, 2011 20:22:16 GMT
serz
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Post by serz on Mar 6, 2012 21:22:27 GMT
I have both exhibition and "pet type" budgies and i have noticed a large difference in behaviour between the two. So much so they are like different species.
The pet type budgies will play with toys, Are easy to tame down, are very active and fly a lot. Will breed but once the chicks are reared they tend to have a break.
But the exhibition ones i have, i have never seen play with toys, I cannot tame down, have a lot of trouble flying and most can fly a bit then plummet to the ground and they are breeding loads. They breed and rear chicks and then are itching to get back too it again. When the nest boxes have been removed they just look really unhappy and down.
From observing this i think that there must be a reason for this like the way they are bred and the habitats ie, living in a breedng cage.
What are your views on this?
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Mar 2, 2012 20:28:29 GMT
zo
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Post by zo on Mar 6, 2012 21:41:42 GMT
I think that it's a fact of breeding showing animals. I don't have much experience in budgies, but my family have bred working labradors. It's much the same principle, we are breeding for different markets, different reasons and find different traits desirable. For a show breeder, you want to stay as close to the breed standard as possible (creating, in your eyes, the most perfect animal), docility and the ability to breed prolifically (if you've got a winner, you want to continue its strain). With labs, it results in quiet, fat, stupid dogs, in budgies it results in other traits. Whereas hobby breeders go for other traits. In working labs, you're going for train-ability, intelligence, athletic and hardy and most of all instinctive retrieving. In budgies, it's personality and train-ability.
So you see, it's different priorities. I wouldn't presume to preach about budgies, I know very little on the show side, but in dogs I find it very quickly ruins the breed.
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Feb 4, 2012 22:25:41 GMT
outnumbered
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Post by outnumbered on Mar 6, 2012 21:45:03 GMT
I don't have much experience of both, but my show budgie is soo docile, plays with toys but still doesn't come out his cage The few times he did come out he barely flew, but his wings are clipped so I put it down to that. I had a pet type one for a short time and was dizzy just watching her, she never stopped. She nearly chewed her way out of her cage. Maybe it is an individual trait, but it sure is funny to observe the difference between each Budgie.
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Post by Rachael Kellett on Mar 6, 2012 22:01:04 GMT
The majority of my budgies are pet type but I do have two definite exhibition types, one hen who is really lazy, doesn't play with toys apart from the odd chewing session, and is very grumpy except with her Milo who she loves. Then there is the cock, Alfie, who is hyper, loves playing with toys and is one of the most energetic budgies I have ever met. So I think it is all down to the personality of the bird and sometimes the environment they live in that affects them, not if they are pet type or exhibition.
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Mar 7, 2012 7:21:29 GMT
I have both types. It is very difficult to breed show budgies. Clutches after clutches of infertile eggs, that too if they bond and breed. Whereas pet type budgies breed very easily. They bond quickly and have a much higher ratio of fertile eggs.
Another difference I noticed is that pet type budgies are very strong and can resist diseases whereas show budgies are very prone to diseases and get sick very easily.
Show budgies I bought don't play with toys but the show chicks hatched with me are as playful as the chicks of pet type budgies.
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Oct 9, 2011 20:22:16 GMT
serz
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Post by serz on Mar 7, 2012 21:31:29 GMT
im glad that you think so too BB as the difference between mine is very very noticable. I think the pet type look like they live a more happy healthy life
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Post by nat on Mar 7, 2012 23:36:05 GMT
I have both types in the aviary, I have definately noticed that the exhibition types are not as long lived as ther pet type counterparts:( I believe this is probably down to the general fitness of the bird from the word go. The exhibition types are too heavy in feather to ever fly very well, so therefore don't maintain the same level of fitness as the pet types. Also as we all know, any animal bred for the purose of show, working, racing will be inbred to a point. The risks in this do not need explaining! On birds being tamable...I've found that there is a different kind of tameness for each type. The pet birds are confident as they know they can get away when they want to. They are the ones that land on me in the aviary, but shoot off just as quickly as they arrived. They take the mickey, because they can lol, but are more confident in coming forward and generally easier to make a bond with. They drag their feet through my hair when they fly past and bite my fingers! The ex types will land on the aviary floor sometimes, and not being too energetic even a relitavely untame bird will climb onto a finger to get delivered back to a perch:) No chance of a petty doing that! They certainly seem like different species at times, but they don't care. We have love going on between my biggest bird Joseph and Lagudin who is probably quarter Jos size:) The exhibition types are easier to force taming onto. They know they can't make a swift move to get away and most of them if handled from birth relent to the fact that they are going to have to put up with being a bit tame. They are like a bird with clipped wings in a way. Although they can fly, they know their limits. I must admit now, I don't strive to tame any of my birds. I leave it for them to decide on the level of human interaction they want.
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Post by barrieshutt on Mar 8, 2012 6:30:39 GMT
My exhibition birds love toys and all can be hand tame before they leave the nest boxes , i do not believe they are more at risk of disease than pet or colony budgerigars, put a flock of birds together, let them share the same the same drinkers where they will dunk their food, deposit their waste into and thus create a wonderful enviroment for a flock disease.
Yes we breed bigger birds from which your pets are bred down from and suprisingly the bigger birds can fly.
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Oct 7, 2011 14:41:02 GMT
ANDY MAC
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Post by ANDY MAC on Mar 8, 2012 7:27:35 GMT
I have 6 budgies and Bruce is an exhibition type and is very large compared to the others, he used to play with his toys but now he loves being with the others. Bruce flies about but not as quick or agile as the smaller ones, yes he lands on the floor but that's just him, he knows I will rescue him ;D, he is the leader of the flock as they all surround him at night time, plus he barks like a dog which I can hear in the next room, so yes I think they are different but in a nice way.
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Mar 8, 2012 8:04:19 GMT
This is the case with all the birds. Bigger birds will not be as quick and sharp at flying as small birds.
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Oct 6, 2011 7:41:27 GMT
Marianne Marlow
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Mar 8, 2012 12:29:58 GMT
I have two exhibition types and 7 pet types.
They all play with toys - I think that is down to the personality an environment of the bird and flock - not their size.
Snowy and Roswell (exhib's) are not as good at flying but they do try and are not lazy in the slightest. They're both fun loving birds.
When they first came out of the cage they were very heavy in the air but with lots of practice they have improved and do fly about with the pet types.
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Post by brian1 on Mar 9, 2012 17:19:15 GMT
Very interesting thread to read...........
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Post by Hezz on Mar 10, 2012 2:13:57 GMT
Agree, Brian. I do like the little "zippers"
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Mar 10, 2012 8:11:42 GMT
Very interesting thread to read........... Yes but maybe the title should have been "The Difference Between Pet and Show Budgies". More people will comment and share their experiences
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Oct 6, 2011 7:41:27 GMT
Marianne Marlow
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Mar 10, 2012 8:41:18 GMT
I changed the title. Hope you don't mind Serz.
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