Healthy Budgie and Sick Budgie Poo

[ffiscool]

maybe diff things throw them.. water makes sense, but millet? but if that is their 'norm' etc

Bailey, when playing with me when I am working, always has slightly greener ones.. i think it is his excitement (i would like to think) at being out and playing on the computer and keyboard

[tatiana4lettuce]

Hi Stace, Would you mind saying how the blocked gizzard was diagnosed and, likewise, the fibre that had been eaten? Was it by x-raying? Thanks very much for any feedback and for the useful poop article. Please thank Pepito too.

[stace]

May 18, 2014 19:17:32 GMT tatiana4lettuce said:

Hi Stace, Would you mind saying how the blocked gizzard was diagnosed and, likewise, the fibre that had been eaten? Was it by x-raying? Thanks very much for any feedback and for the useful poop article. Please thank Pepito too.

Sure. (By the way, it's Boo, not Pepito) Boo ate some natural rope fibre that was part of tiny tassel at the end of a toy. It wasn't even that much rope, just tiny fragments. His poop started getting strange, as I've shown further back in the thread and he was showing signs of stomach pain (wincing and leaning forward).

When I took him to the avian vet, he immediately suspected either metal poisoning or blocked gizzard-foreign body obstruction, tested his poop and found various bacterial and fungal infections, and then needed to x-ray him to confirm metal toxins or blocked gizzard.

I see you have another thread question about x rays. My vet does the x-rays WITHOUT anaesthetic. My bird had to have a series of rolling x-rays over the course of a couple of months to check his progress with unblocking the rotting rope matter from his insides.


Here's a whole thread about it.

budgerigarsforum.proboards.com/thread/2028/boos-avian-vet-poop-check


 

[tatiana4lettuce]

Oh! Ok, great to know and will now check the thread you posted, many thanks indeed !!! So sorry Boo had to go through that but hopefully he didn't get too stressed out. I am concerned about Jet's potential x-rays as he HATES being handled whereas my other budgies, Lettuce, Blithe et al really don't mind they think it is an adventure of some sort. To be fair, I never try hard to handle Jet. He will let me stroke him but I have only ever picked him up a couple of times when really necessary and I know he's not keen. He has never hopped on my finger and if I keep in there in front of him for too long he just veers away!!! So, maybe the vet is right in saying that Jet would do better under anaesthetic??? I am really not keen on it but, again, I don't want my baby to have a heart attack either! It's a double edged sword

[stace]

May 19, 2014 17:16:53 GMT tatiana4lettuce said:

Oh! Ok, great to know and will now check the thread you posted, many thanks indeed !!! So sorry Boo had to go through that but hopefully he didn't get too stressed out. I am concerned about Jet's potential x-rays as he HATES being handled whereas my other budgies, Lettuce, Blithe et al really don't mind they think it is an adventure of some sort. To be fair, I never try hard to handle Jet. He will let me stroke him but I have only ever picked him up a couple of times when really necessary and I know he's not keen. He has never hopped on my finger and if I keep in there in front of him for too long he just veers away!!! So, maybe the vet is right in saying that Jet would do better under anaesthetic??? I am really not keen on it but, again, I don't want my baby to have a heart attack either! It's a double edged sword

I've responded in your other anaesthetic thread. 

[blustersquall]

I have a poop question; basically going by the images on here, Snow's poop appears normal, not watery or odd in anyway, except it's... sort of green-grey in colour. Does that mean anything is wrong? Or could be wrong? Could he be missing something from his diet?

[BudgiesBuddy]

May 23, 2014 18:05:38 GMT blustersquall said:

I have a poop question; basically going by the images on here, Snow's poop appears normal, not watery or odd in anyway, except it's... sort of green-grey in colour. Does that mean anything is wrong? Or could be wrong? Could he be missing something from his diet?

Post a picture without flash which represents the original color 100%.

[Hezz]

Also ........
If he is eating his greens, this can cause the colour to change to a greenish hue, and only to be expected. So consider what he has been eating before getting too concerned.

[blustersquall]

Sorry these aren't the greatest of quality, but no flash as requested. You can kind of see the green-grey tint. They're not watery or runny though.

[Hezz]

What has he been eating?

[stace]

Ask yourself a few questions:

Is this a different colour from the usual? Is the size normal? If so, how long have they been different? Is he eating something different? Is there any change in his behaviour, stance, activity level? Check underneath at his bum too.

Take him off all other food except for seed and water. See if the poop goes back to normal quickly. Food goes through their system fast, so diet changes are quickly reflected in their poop.

Are there are urates in that poop? - The white stuff.

If YOU think something is wrong, my advice is don't mess about guessing.

[blustersquall]

May 25, 2014 0:37:35 GMT Hezz said:

What has he been eating?

Mostly a budgie seed mix and water.
He has a millet spray once every two weeks as a little treat, and he's had some meal worms for protein while he goes through his moult (which seems to be taking an awfully long time).
I offer him fresh carrot chunks most days which he nibbles at, but doesn't eat the whole thing. He also has a cuttle fish, an mineral block, avaliable and treat stick which has some bonus minerals to help with moulting for the time being.
Recently he had a single piece of cooked pasta which he again nibbled at, mostly because he was trying to eat from my bowl of spaggetti bolognaise and I didn't think the mince would be particularly good for him.

[blustersquall]

May 25, 2014 1:32:19 GMT stace said:

Ask yourself a few questions:

Is this a different colour from the usual? Is the size normal? If so, how long have they been different? Is he eating something different? Is there any change in his behaviour, stance, activity level? Check underneath at his bum too.

Take him off all other food except for seed and water. See if the poop goes back to normal quickly. Food goes through their system fast, so diet changes are quickly reflected in their poop.

Are there are urates in that poop? - The white stuff.

If YOU think something is wrong, my advice is don't mess about guessing.

Honestly, his poops have always been like this, the grey-green colour is a little unusual, but its gone back to normal colour today. His behaviour is the same, he's very chatty and busy, but he is sleeping a bit more because of the moulting I think. And I've checked his vent it's fine, no mess and no poop sticking to his feathers. Also checked his nase and cere which are clear, unblocked and completely healthy

I don't think anything is wrong, I just wanted to check. As I've said, there have been no behavioural changes.

There are urates in his poop, there always have been... but they are like the rest of his poop. They don't mix together, they stay in the centre and they are not watery, they never have been. I'm always keeping an eye on him, I check his poop every day to make sure there's nothing untoward about them.

I suppose I had a bit of a concern because of the colour.

[stace]

Great that it's gone back to normal, blustersquall.

As soon as you see something different in their poop that concerns you (providing no other illness signs are showing), just go back to seed and water only to check if it's only something they've eaten that's changing the colour and consistency.

[Deleted]

Can budgies have more watery poop overnight without it being an illness?

The poop underneath Munchy's swing have a tendency to be rather loose and have staining around them from the water content, but once I've uncovered him and he's out and about his poop is completely normal. It can't be a lack of food because he always eats before bed and half the time comes out of the cage in the morning having foregone breakfast in favour of freedom, in which case his poop is normal but tiny.

Here are the pictures I took. Sorry they're not the best. The camera didn't seem to want to focus properly.

Overnight poop


Daytime poop