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Post by Hezz on Jan 12, 2014 1:51:22 GMT
Blue was a mauve, Ira. He was almost grey in some photos, and a gorgeous lilac in others. it was a more subtle colour than most of the others. |
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Jan 12, 2014 7:06:30 GMT
Makes sense  Is it just the light, BudgiesBuddy, or is the Mauve rather grey looking? By which I mean, it's quite a dull, unsaturated blue colour as well as being very dark? The cheek patches, of course, tell you there's no grey factor, like with the Olive Green. The colors can look different from one budgie to another. Also sometimes a budgie is masking another mutation, which can change the tone of the color. I will explain it with examples in Violets, and Grey Factor, which is next. |
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Jan 12, 2014 7:06:59 GMT
Blue was a mauve, Ira. He was almost grey in some photos, and a gorgeous lilac in others. it was a more subtle colour than most of the others. Here you go Ira |
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Post by kikkinu on Jan 12, 2014 11:17:35 GMT
this is so interesting, keep it coming !!
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Post by Hezz on Jan 13, 2014 7:21:45 GMT
We probably all should be!!! |
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Jan 14, 2014 7:34:56 GMT
this is so interesting, keep it coming !! You're welcome |
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Post by ffiscool on Jan 14, 2014 22:35:38 GMT
Just catching up on this one. Totally fascinating. Looking forward to more
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Jan 16, 2014 7:19:06 GMT
Grey Factor Gray Factor is a color adding factor. So when a budgie has Grey Factor, the Grey color is added. The budgie will have Grey color, plus the budgie's original body color. The Grey Factor is very strong. It overrides the underlying original body color. Grey Factor: Dominant Normal: Recessive There are only two Alleles for the Grey Factor. One is the Grey Factor gene and the other one is Normal gene. The Grey Factor gene is Dominant and the Normal gene is Recessive. It means that a Single Factor Grey budgie will look like a Double Factor Grey budgie. However, Dark Factors still work here. For example a Grey budgie with one Dark Factor or with two Dark Factors can be darker in color than a Grey budgie with no Dark Factors. Therefore if we call Grey Factor “G” and the NORMAL “g”, we can get the following three genetic combinations in budgies. gg = Two NORMAL genes, which will result in Normal budgie. Gg = One Grey Factor, and one Normal gene , which will result in Grey Factor (Single Factor Grey Budgie). GG = Two Grey Factors, which will result in Grey Factor (Double Factor Grey Budgie). Grey Factor creates Grey Green in Yellow Based budgies and Grey in White Based budgies. So Normal Yellow Based budgies (Green Series), which have a Grey Factor will appear Grey Green.  A pair of Grey Greens. And Normal White Based budgies (Blue Series), which have Grey Factor will appear Grey.  Normal Grey. (Barrie's)Violet Factor Violet Factor is also a color adding Factor, but it is not as strong as the Grey Factor is. Even Green budgies can have Violet factor but it is very hard to tell. The Violet usually darkens the Green a little and Violet tinge can be seen sometimes. Sky Blue budgies will also have a Violet tinge. Violet Factor: Semi Dominant Normal: Recessive There are only two Alleles for the Violet Factor. One is the Violet Factor gene and the other one is Normal gene. The Violet Factor gene is Semi Dominant and the Normal gene is Recessive. Because Violet Factor is Semi Dominant, it means that sometimes a Single Factor Violet will look different than a Double Factor Violet. Therefore if we call the Violet gene “V” and the NORMAL “v”, we can get the following three genetic combinations in budgies. vv = Two NORMAL genes, which will result in Normal budgie. Vv = One Violet Factor, and one Normal gene, which will result in Violet budgie. (Only Cobalt will show true violet, and Green, Sky Blue and Mauves can show slight Violet tone). VV = Two Violet Factors, which will result in Violet budgie. (Cobalt and Sky Blue can show Violet, and Green and Mauves will show Slight Violet tone. It means that if a budgie has Violet Factor, one may or may not know its presence. Only Cobalt budgies can show true Violet color. One can easily confuse a Violet Sky Blue budgie for a Cobalt Budgie. And similarly, a Light Green budgie for a Dark Green, or Dark Green for an Olive. This is because Violet gene darkens the original body color of the budgies. So it is very hard to tell if a Yellow Based budgie is carrying Violet Factor, because the Violet Factor usually darkens the Green which will be similar to a Dark Green (one Dark Factor). So to tell if the Green budgie is carrying Violet Factor, one has to look closely to see the Violet tinge. It is mostly visible on the body feathers near the feet and vent. Or by breeding results. Sky Blue budgies which have one Violet Factor will also have violet tinge. It can be seen in the body feathers near the feet. Sometimes such budgies will look darker than a Normal Sky Blue. They can even look like a Cobalt. Therefore, it is very difficult to detect Violet Factor in Mauve budgies.  A Violet Cobalt |
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Jan 16, 2014 7:21:03 GMT
Just catching up on this one. Totally fascinating. Looking forward to more Thank you |
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Post by ffiscool on Jan 16, 2014 14:35:30 GMT
really interesting
so, Bailey is a white based.. with grey factor
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Post by BudgiesBuddy on Jan 17, 2014 15:22:17 GMT
really interesting so, Bailey is a white based.. with grey factor It looks so from your avatar Post a picture or two from different angles. |
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Post by kikkinu on Jan 17, 2014 19:15:41 GMT
really interesting so, Bailey is a white based.. with grey factor It looks so from your avatar Post a picture or two from different angles. From what I've read so far I think your right ffiscool  |
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Post by ffiscool on Jan 17, 2014 20:51:05 GMT
I will find some pics
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Post by phoebe on Jan 17, 2014 22:26:16 GMT
I wish someone would make a children's book version of this info. It's so sad for me since my stroke. The information I read goes in my brain but doesn't seem to be retained anywhere. Imagine the information going in and one sentence at a time being retained the rest is falling off a cliff somewhere into a void.
If I can visualize some series of events that seem to make up action I can remember very long stories. Somehow this info just makes my head hurt. I really would like to learn this stuff though.
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