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Post by nat on Nov 8, 2011 20:28:13 GMT
When I went in the birdroom early this morningI found Della looking a bit hunched up (not yet fluffed up) and tail bobbing with tail drawn under her. All the others were feeding but not her.
I pulled her out and put her in the hospital cage. I noticed that after 1 hour she'd done no droppings. I went out and returned 5 hours later to find she'd only done 4 droppings in that time. They are very dark in colour, solid and with the normal white urate (not much) but double in size. To me she looks like shes constipated. She has eaten some millet spray but wouldn't touch any carrot or soft food and as I had put a measured 25ml in her water bottle I could see she hadn't drunk all day so I gave her 3 drops of water with guardian angel in the beak. She perked up a bit and had a good preen and some more millet spray, but then regurgitated much of what she'd had. 4 hours later I have given her 2 drops of guardian angel water and shes eaten millet spray again. This time its stayed down so far. She still is only doing 1 dropping about every hour or 2. Her vent and mask are clean.
Any ideas? If she is constipated what can I do to help her?
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Post by Hezz on Nov 9, 2011 1:33:31 GMT
I can only suggest watery greens such as lettuce or juicy fruits - juicy apples, oranges etc. Sorry not much help, Nat.
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Post by stace on Nov 9, 2011 2:14:48 GMT
I don't know Nat, but this is something on large droppings from my vet....
Larger droppings The size of the droppings is a very good indicator of the fitness and health of pet birds. The metabolism of the most healthy and fit birds purrs with efficiency and requires minimal energy to run at top capacity. Pet birds in top health eat and drink less because their energy systems are highly efficient. They produce droppings that are small, tight, low in water and are well formed; the fittest birds have the smallest droppings. Large droppings occur when birds eat too much food. Excessive hunger occurs as a result of illness, parasites or as a habit. Large droppings may indicate a fitness or heath problem and should be tested microscopically.
Large droppings reflect a continuing stress. The use of acid water cleanser (Quik Gel, Megamix or a water cleanser) at the first indication of large droppings in your pet bird remains the best method for preventing illness.
A large dropping is an early sigh of a health problem. Fit and healthy pet birds have smaller droppings. Pet owners should constantly monitor and think about the droppings when they change from perfect form. An increase in the size of the dropping is usually the first noticeable sign of change. On closer examination a change in the colour and wetness becomes more obvious. Persistently large, discoloured, wet droppings indicate a major health problem and require immediate veterinary treatment and emergency first aid treatment administered by a crop needle.
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Post by barrieshutt on Nov 9, 2011 6:11:28 GMT
A very tiny dose of epsom salts is required Nat
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Post by nat on Nov 9, 2011 9:32:54 GMT
Thanks everyone. I'm glad to say Della has done several droppings overnight and is looking much better jumping and flying around. Barrie, I shall keep 'epsom salts' in mind if the same thing crops up again. We use it for the horses at work sometimes:)
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Post by barrieshutt on Nov 9, 2011 11:26:57 GMT
Don't give the budgies a horse dose Nat
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Post by nat on Nov 9, 2011 13:44:36 GMT
LOL Barrie! What you mean 2 handfuls is too much? Just googled epsom salts and didn't realise how many things it is good for. Apparently its good for fertilising plants too and acts as an organic insecticide. Not to mention for use in baths for achy people;) Think I might get a bagful:)
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Post by barrieshutt on Nov 9, 2011 13:56:40 GMT
we all need a bag full then Nat
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Post by nat on Nov 10, 2011 0:20:49 GMT
Bad news. In the duration of the day she started to look bad again. She is doing more frequent droppings which do look an ok size now so no constipation, but are too dark in colour and oily looking now and have started clagging her vent. Could be an internal bleed or bacterial I think. Has regurgitated slightly again. Have to see how she gets on now on baytril.
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Post by Hezz on Nov 10, 2011 1:32:23 GMT
That's no good, Nat. I did think of epsom salts but couldn't find a site that would confirm it for me with budgies. My dad takes it all the time (might be why he is so grumpy, lol)
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Oct 7, 2011 11:42:06 GMT
theswann
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Post by theswann on Nov 10, 2011 7:13:24 GMT
Nat, I can't offer any wise advice but really hope that she will be ok, poor little lass
xx
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Post by sarah*glittergirl2212 on Nov 10, 2011 9:28:59 GMT
I hope she's ok, it's such a worry when they're poorly. You are doing all you can for her
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Post by nat on Nov 11, 2011 22:01:08 GMT
Thanks guys:) Della seems to be improving:) Shes an excellent patient and just opens her beak wide to take the meds. It only took her a couple of times to realise its over and done with quicker if she does this:) Her droppings look almost normal and shes a good bit more lively. Now I find her sitting on different perches and not huuddled up all the time on the rope swing. Shes getting through a good bit of millet spray, normal seed and really got into the hemp seed I added:) Crossing fingers she keeps on improving:)
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Oct 16, 2011 23:58:27 GMT
LuvtheBudgies
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Post by LuvtheBudgies on Nov 12, 2011 2:01:31 GMT
Thanks guys:) Della seems to be improving:) Shes an excellent patient and just opens her beak wide to take the meds. It only took her a couple of times to realise its over and done with quicker if she does this:) Her droppings look almost normal and shes a good bit more lively. Now I find her sitting on different perches and not huuddled up all the time on the rope swing. Shes getting through a good bit of millet spray, normal seed and really got into the hemp seed I added:) Crossing fingers she keeps on improving:) I'm so glad she's doing better! But now I am rather worried as my Lizzy has been 'doing' at about three times as large as normal. I thought large droppings were a sign of good health silly me. I'll be watching her. *question* If a millet spray has little black crumbs inside of the seeds (I only see them when she eats it) Is that mold and should I throw the millet away?
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Post by Hezz on Nov 12, 2011 2:17:30 GMT
Oh, don't know, but it doesn't sound right! If in doubt, throw out!
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