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Post by samwiseg on Aug 29, 2015 9:10:06 GMT
Welcome to our world OP
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Post by ffiscool on Aug 29, 2015 9:45:30 GMT
You can only be prepared. They can be such a worry
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Post by Hezz on Aug 29, 2015 10:15:55 GMT
Thank you Hezz. I do keep cornflour in just for such emergencies. Is that sufficient? I mean if a blood vessel were to burst would anything stop the bleeding. It's not as if I could apply compression to allow cornflour or styptic pen to work its magic. I do have a bit of a problem with regards to her flying in that when the boys are out the cage door is left open for them. Usually when Edward comes out for a fly it is by accident rather than management. She tries to fly and land in the doorway of the cage. She invariably misses and lands on the living room carpet. It is a rare occasion for this to happen, most times she is quite content to stay in the cage. Although that is fraught with its own danger in that she quite often flaps her wings and flies off the perch, if she is lucky she contacts another perch on her way to the bottom of the cage. I have never seen the blood vessel protruding whilst she is in the cage. I am more aware of it now that I know it is there. I think I am as prepared as I can be. Oh! worry, worry. The difference is that a styptic pen is made specially to stop bleeding; cornflour isn't. Check out this link, it will explain it much better than I can. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AntihemorrhagicThat is why I think it is a good idea to have on hand - it is made to handle the sort of thing Edward might experience, rather than just a broken blood feather or cut-too-short nail.
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Post by OP on Aug 29, 2015 12:23:34 GMT
Styptic pencil used to be kept in my shaving kit a few years ago. Then I found that toilet paper did the same thing. But then I'm a human and I didn't go cutting blood vessels. But do you think that a styptic pencil would stop a bleeding blood vessel, especially one that is weak already? It is a serious and dangerous position we are in, yet if the vet tried to do something surgically then it could finish up being fatal. It's not just the surgery itself, there is also the matter of the anaesthetic at Edwards age. A rock and a hard place comes to mind.
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Post by milliej on Aug 29, 2015 13:17:30 GMT
Sorry to hear about Eddie's troubles OP but good on you for your quick thinking and what a good girl so well behaved (for a hen ) Sounds a bit like Mischief and her flapping and missing perches, I got flat ones for her but the other two won't have it that they aren't allowed even though I've given them a good talking too
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Post by Hezz on Aug 30, 2015 1:47:17 GMT
Styptic pencil used to be kept in my shaving kit a few years ago. Then I found that toilet paper did the same thing. But then I'm a human and I didn't go cutting blood vessels. But do you think that a styptic pencil would stop a bleeding blood vessel, especially one that is weak already?It is a serious and dangerous position we are in, yet if the vet tried to do something surgically then it could finish up being fatal. It's not just the surgery itself, there is also the matter of the anaesthetic at Edwards age. A rock and a hard place comes to mind. And you have heaps more blood that you can afford to lose without the risk of bleeding out. I don't know whether the pen would do the trick, but I would back it against a pot of cornflour. It would be my first choice, if in the same position.
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Post by OP on Aug 30, 2015 6:54:20 GMT
Points taken Hezz. The styptic pen is virtually in the box under the cage. Thank you.
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Post by samwiseg on Sept 3, 2015 8:22:44 GMT
How's Eddie doing OP? Hope she is still doing well
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Post by OP on Sept 3, 2015 8:56:01 GMT
She is doing fine within herself, thank you Sam. There's no change in the swelling that I have noticed. It only comes up when she has a flying attempt. She seems happy enough with her lot. I interact with her just as I do with Joey an Whiskers. I actually picked her up by wrapping my hand round her body Yesterday without getting bitten. She got startled & flew out of the cage when Whiskers took off from a perch just above her, of course she finished up on the room carpet. For the first time she got one of her claws caught on a loose strand of pile. She allowed me to pick her up and release her claw. As soon as she was released she climbed up through my loosely furled hand and onto my index finger. She can be so gentle when the need arises. Here I go rattling on again. Thank you for asking Sam. I have checked what I can of the carpet and it is just one part that is getting a bit worn, not a real hazard.
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Post by samwiseg on Sept 3, 2015 9:06:21 GMT
Not at all OP not at all! I just love to think that you started off with one gorgeous fella and now have three buds in total! And taking on a hen bird is no mean feat either You are truly smitten Glad she is doing well, dont forget to give yourself a pat on the back as a lot of that is down to you x
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Post by OP on Sept 3, 2015 9:09:14 GMT
I've gone all squishy now.
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Post by samwiseg on Sept 3, 2015 18:38:54 GMT
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Post by skysmum on Sept 3, 2015 22:05:09 GMT
OP i don't know how i missed this about little Edward . Im so pleased it was all ok, something to keep an eye on though for sure. What a good girl she was at the vets too . All my girls are very gentle, they give it, the attitude, but once you have hold of them they are putty in my hands, its my JoJo that can give a vicious bite if he is having one of those days
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Post by Hezz on Sept 4, 2015 1:35:23 GMT
There is always one who will get themselves caught on things the others don't. Mine is Mango - she gets her claws caught in the screen in my room, then bites holes in it because she can't get lose!! Her claws aren't long, but they do seem to curl slightly more than the others. I am glad Edward is staying (relatively) calm and not running risks with her dodgy blood vessel.
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Post by OP on Sept 4, 2015 6:28:39 GMT
I don't know about not taking risks, but a couple of times she has got to the top of the cage on the outside without me noticing it. I usually have my back to the cage when at the computer and can hear most of what they are doing. I can't arrange it any other way. When she is on top of the cage I have to be very wary of her launching herself off. If she is lucky she will fly through to the conservatory and land on the floor. There are plenty of perching opportunities that she flies straight over. She doesn't seem to have any guidance and goes wherever her wings take her. It's like having a toddler who is unaware of any dangers and just goes regardless and clumsily. It keeps me on my toes anyway.
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