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Post by Loz on Mar 29, 2022 17:06:40 GMT
No vet available to see Patch at the local vet, it will be next week at earliest.
I will ring the Portsmouth vet tomorrow. She might be back from sick leave and annual leave by now.
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Post by criswell on Mar 29, 2022 17:23:59 GMT
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Post by Loz on Mar 29, 2022 17:43:16 GMT
They have a branch in Henfield which isn't a terrible distance away, only awful. Same with Partridge Green. It is possible, criswell. Thanks!
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Post by criswell on Mar 29, 2022 18:39:07 GMT
I'm glad to have helped
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Post by criswell on Mar 30, 2022 13:45:51 GMT
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Post by Loz on Mar 30, 2022 13:51:53 GMT
I've bagged a 1610 appointment today with the Portsmouth exotic vet.
Patch is safely in the hospital cage now after a ten minute chase. It should have taken longer but Patch was out of puff, which makes me feel sad.
I cannot imagine what advice the vet can give. I've taken vids and can give her a full account of what I've observed but all I can think is I will be feeding Patch anti-biotics because no one has a better plan. Goat, I hope I'm proved wrong and there's some definite and optimistic outlook. I'm pessimistic by nature and I've been wrong before about worst-case scenarios.
Will update after I get back from our visit. Everyone has visited Patch in jail, I took pics ðŸ˜
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Post by criswell on Mar 30, 2022 14:27:29 GMT
I'm glad you have an appointment for Patch. Antibiotics have been the first thing my vet has tried and it's generally done the trick for my boys. She might be able to feel if he has any lumps or anything. When RC was sick the vet could feel that his liver was enlarged and he noticed he was lethargic which I hadn't picked up on. After antibiotic treatment RCs liver returned to its normal size.
I hope you get good news and I'll be thinking about you and Patch.
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Mar 30, 2022 14:52:30 GMT
Just seen this. I hope the vet appointment with Patch goes well and something can be done to help him.
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Post by Loz on Mar 30, 2022 19:16:51 GMT
Saw my usual vet, who was her normal caring, professional self. She really does try to help. As I suspected would be the case, we don't have a diagnosis. The vet's hunch is that the issue may be congenital. However, we settled on a plan of treatment and investigation, least harm first.
Step One: Anti-biotics for a week, anti-inflammatories for five days. Patch was wheezing slightly when the vet saw him and his breathing was looking laboured, with the "heaving" that was noticed by Marianne in the video I posted. This may be an indication of pneumonia.
Step Two: Take note of any changes arising from Step One, and if no improvement, scans to look for abnormalities in heart, lungs, liver etc. This will involve a general anaesthetic so it is not our first port of call.
Step Three 3: No idea. May involve getting poop tested but the vet wasn't sure what could be determined by such testing.
The answer may be, Patch was born with this condition but I don't want to jump too that and risk missing something treatable.
Capturing Patch only took ten minutes, he ran out of puff fairly quickly. He settled well in the hospital cage and was a good boy throughout. He yelled at me on the way home so I had to keep contact calling with him to keep him happy.
He was greeted by the other parrots in a heart-warming display on his arrival home. I have pics, etc in my other threads. The birbs are all in bed now, the hospital cage sandwiched between the two aviaries so that everyone can keep in touch in the night. Patch will live in the hospital cage for a week, to enable me to track his poop accurately and to assist in the process of syringing his meds.
Feeding Patch his meds is nerve-wracking. I am utterly terrified of hurting him but at the same time I realise I have to be direct and assured, to minimise the time that Patch is subjected to stress. I hate this part so much.
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Post by criswell on Mar 30, 2022 21:40:53 GMT
I hope the antibiotics and anti-inflamatory help little Patch, and it's good that you've got a plan. Did she suggest a blood test too?. Patch must have been so glad to get home to his friends. I'll look at the pics next. Patch is such a good boy. How was he doing after his busy afternoon? I hope it didn't tire him out too much.
I hate giving meds too for the same reason but hopefully it will do the trick and Patch will be feeling better soon.
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Post by Loz on Mar 30, 2022 23:02:17 GMT
criswell the vet maintains that Patch (and previously, Mr Hibs) are too small to obtain blood from for a test. I'm assuming she does have either the equipment, training or confidence needed. The flock was delighted to see Patch back, that's for sure. They were all over his cage and Eeyore was determined to bust him out of jail. I'm wondering, can I keep Patch in the small hospital cage for a week? Surely I should let him out periodically?
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Post by ffiscool on Mar 30, 2022 23:44:00 GMT
it is good you have a plan and fingers crossed he will be sorted soon with the meds. It depends on the size, I would say.... but it is a long time if it is small. could he come out when the others are in, for a fly about.. he may get upset if he is in the whole week.
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Post by Loz on Mar 31, 2022 0:15:07 GMT
That was my thought, ffiscoolI'll have to see what I can do!
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Post by criswell on Mar 31, 2022 7:05:48 GMT
If you can catch him again easily then I don't think you need to keep him in the hospital cage all the time. When mine have been ill they've stayed in their regular cage.
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Post by Loz on Mar 31, 2022 7:49:29 GMT
I like your thinking there criswell as I'm in an agony of guilt over incarcerating Patch when he is not too ill to take part in flock activities. Perhaps the least harm is to capture Patch three times a day for meds and for re-caging at night. I should be able to gauge Patch's digestive health from the night-time deliveries alone. Several poops on the cage floor this morning. Not as many as there should be, and far too wet, but perhaps this is not unexpected. A few better poops this morning after his first Baytrill dose but one of those may have been the ever-attentive Eeyore, trying to fudge the books so to speak.
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