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Mango
Dec 28, 2013 9:03:11 GMT
Post by samwiseg on Dec 28, 2013 9:03:11 GMT
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Mango
Dec 28, 2013 10:20:17 GMT
Post by Hezz on Dec 28, 2013 10:20:17 GMT
Yep this one is my limit in budgie genetics All I can point out is that he (?) is opaline, spangle and yellowface. I am stumped on his body colour EDIT: From the first pic you put up hezz my guess is that he is a blue series bird coming through with the mothers colour. But in the other pics he looks more green. Is the first pic a good interpretation of his body colour? EDIT AGAIN: Never mind that ^ Im confusing myself Nicola, the first pic is a good rep of the body colour, but maybe as BB has said this is a fluorescence rather than true colour ..... In some lights (I'm going with she now) she is much blue-er. Did you read she parent's colours? Mum is a dark cobalt violet spangle, dad "yellow" ..... I am thinking double factor spangle as I don't remember any markings on him or red eyes.
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Mango
Dec 28, 2013 10:21:24 GMT
Post by Hezz on Dec 28, 2013 10:21:24 GMT
BudgiesBuddy, I will load up photos of Fluoro tomorrow, but not sure how much better I will be able to find.
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Mango
Dec 29, 2013 0:53:23 GMT
Post by Hezz on Dec 29, 2013 0:53:23 GMT
These are about the best I have.
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Mango
Dec 29, 2013 3:03:21 GMT
Post by stace on Dec 29, 2013 3:03:21 GMT
The intricacies of mutations make my head hurt.
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Mango
Dec 29, 2013 10:10:20 GMT
Post by samwiseg on Dec 29, 2013 10:10:20 GMT
The intricacies of mutations make my head hurt. I too share that sentiment!
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Mango
Dec 31, 2013 7:32:38 GMT
Post by BudgiesBuddy on Dec 31, 2013 7:32:38 GMT
These are about the best I have. I could never tell that these are the pictures of the same budgie
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Mango
Dec 31, 2013 10:44:02 GMT
Post by Hezz on Dec 31, 2013 10:44:02 GMT
They are. You know how photos really can lie about colours. The yellow of the first is washed out; the yellow of the second is probably a bit too rich, but it was mainly the white wing/flight feathers I was trying to portray in these shots. Mango's flight feathers are yellow, so wondering how you differentiate this. Would Fluoro have been a clearwing .. at the time he was diagnosed as an olive green spangle; and would Mango be simply a grey-green spangle. It is the difference in the flight feathers I am particularly interested in.
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Mango
Jan 2, 2014 4:00:50 GMT
Post by BudgiesBuddy on Jan 2, 2014 4:00:50 GMT
Clearwings have bright body color and bright violet cheek patches. Was this the case with Fluoro?
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Mango
Jan 2, 2014 4:04:53 GMT
Hezz likes this
Post by BudgiesBuddy on Jan 2, 2014 4:04:53 GMT
Single Factor Spangles have white or yellow (depending on body color) flight feathers with black edges. And Fluoro's second picture shows exactly that.
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Mango
Jan 2, 2014 4:08:24 GMT
Post by BudgiesBuddy on Jan 2, 2014 4:08:24 GMT
Fluoro was a "Spangle Grey Green", if the cheek patches were Grey/Blue. And "Spangle Dark Green" if the cheek patches were Violet.
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Mango
Jan 2, 2014 4:10:57 GMT
Post by BudgiesBuddy on Jan 2, 2014 4:10:57 GMT
Forgot to mention that Mango's main flight feathers should molt out to be the same as Fluoro.
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Mango
Jan 2, 2014 15:29:27 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 15:29:27 GMT
I'm always interested in animal genetics. I have a book on breeding budgies and from a previous read through the section on colour mutations I found it easy to understand that green is dominant to blue and that you can have greens split for blue, but it's the things like 'spangle' that I don't get. I don't think spangles were mentioned in this book, it is old though, but I'm pleased to be able to spot an opaline What IS a spangle, BB?
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Mango
Jan 3, 2014 0:44:34 GMT
Post by Hezz on Jan 3, 2014 0:44:34 GMT
Forgot to mention that Mango's main flight feathers should molt out to be the same as Fluoro. Okayyyyyyy!!! That makes sense. I can't remember what colour Fluoro's cheek patches were but he was "diagnosed" as olive-green spangle ....... is that the same as dark-green? And yes, Fluoro did have smudges of dark markings on his flights - easy to see in that photo. I don't want Mango to lose her yellow flight-feathers, though. Pout! Sooooo, if Mango's dad was a double factor spangle, which I think, not lutino, I am fairly sure; and mum was a cobalt spangle ........ she must have gotten one spangle factor from dad, but mum's non-spangle gene ...... is this the way it works ...... like human genetics?
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Mango
Jan 4, 2014 9:28:30 GMT
Post by BudgiesBuddy on Jan 4, 2014 9:28:30 GMT
I'm always interested in animal genetics. I have a book on breeding budgies and from a previous read through the section on colour mutations I found it easy to understand that green is dominant to blue and that you can have greens split for blue, but it's the things like 'spangle' that I don't get. I don't think spangles were mentioned in this book, it is old though, but I'm pleased to be able to spot an opaline What IS a spangle, BB? Spangle makes the markings on budgie wings and tails to appear reversed. So a Yellow based normal budgie would have black feathers with yellow edges. And a Yellow based Single Factor Spangle would have yellow flight feathers with black edges. But when a budgie is a Double Factor Spangle, all the markings disappear and a yellow based budgie would look all yellow and a white based budgie would look all white.
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