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Post by ffiscool on Mar 16, 2020 20:19:24 GMT
Yes, two drugs for malaria and HIV might work
Both my brother and sister in law now have temperatures, coughs. So have self isolated. My brother not the healthiest so a bit of a worry. My SIL is fit and healthy. So hopefully they both only have whatever mildly
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Post by tweetiepiesmom on Mar 16, 2020 20:49:15 GMT
Yes, ffiscool I hope they both get well soon and are not too miserable. We are still on the upswing of new cases here. It sounds reasonable to me that maybe a combination of drugs might help. The drug industries ere are working on two things: a vaccine and drugs to relieve the symptoms. With countries across the globe working on it. I'm hoping they come up with something soon.
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Post by criswell on Mar 16, 2020 22:40:57 GMT
I hope your brother and sister in law get well really soon ffiscool. Hezz is right, we do make antibodies to viruses. This happens if we are infected with a virus or we have a vaccination. The body makes antibodies to attack the virus and memory cells which stay in the blood so next we are infected with the same virus the memory cells make the antibodies really quickly so we don't get sick. It's concerning that some patients in China are testing positive for coronavirus after they were thought to be free of the virus but it's unclear why. It could be due to testing error and that the virus was still present. Most people who have tested positive again have no symptoms. It's always very difficult with a new virus to know how it will behave, but with other coronaviruses people have developed immunity after infection. tweetiepiesmom I read over the weekend that they were going to start trials today. I hope it goes well. It may still be many months before a vaccine is ready. The first vaccine for SARS actually made people worse but they were able to modify it to be less harmful. The first stage of trials is to check for harmful effects of the vaccine in healthy people, and it's good that they are being cautious about testing it on one person initially. We had a disasterous drug trial in the UK in 2006 were 6 men almost died and were left disfigured as a result.
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Post by criswell on Mar 16, 2020 22:43:59 GMT
While I was watching University Challenge earlier I totally forgot about what was going on in the world. It was a bit of shock when I remembered what was going on as it didn't seem real at all.
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Post by ffiscool on Mar 16, 2020 22:51:49 GMT
Yes, you switch off then it’s like OMG again
A friend of mine works in travel, thinks the and others will lose their jobs.
Let’s hope these trials are successful and in the meantime symptoms can be alleviated with what we have. My SIL is using heat pads and said forget food, but stock up on paracetamol.
We have no choice but to ride it all out and hope that more start recovering from it.
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Post by tweetiepiesmom on Mar 17, 2020 0:22:59 GMT
We got more details on the vaccine trial. They have 45 people between the ages of 25-55 who are healthy to participate. It will be a series of 3 vaccines about a month apart. If the first person has no adverse effects in a week the others will be vaccinated. We should know how good it is in 60 days. Someone in my neighborhood has friends working in China. Her friend told her initially no one believed the press and thought it was over blown. Then everyone started paying attention to what the medical experts were saying. The shut down of businesses and isolation was difficult but after a couple of days people got used to it. No one there did the hoard shopping. They looked forward to going out for groceries every three days. Restaurants did food delivery which was fast because no one was on the streets. Temperatures were taken before anyone was allowed in the stores. Now after 8 weeks, the number of new cases has dropped significantly. Her friend ventured out to a local park to enjoy the sun and spring and there were a few people there. Businesses are starting to re-open. There is a light at the end of the tunnel. Many retail stores are announcing that they are closing until April. All restaurants are closed except for take out and delivery.
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Post by thezoo on Mar 17, 2020 0:48:56 GMT
Scares the living daylights out of me. I have hypertension and COPD so I started self isolating in January. I have 50% lung capacity,basically one working lung . . As for freaking out over supplies. I’m not to worried. Being a country girl we can be resourceful 😉
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Post by tweetiepiesmom on Mar 17, 2020 2:01:45 GMT
Good you already self isolated thezoo. I hope you will get through this without any trouble. Country people are great! I hope your neighbors keep an eye out for you.
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Post by ffiscool on Mar 17, 2020 2:06:16 GMT
It’s encouraging hearing that China is improving. Let’s hope we all follow that pattern. Also promising on the drugs
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Post by Shirls on Mar 17, 2020 8:23:51 GMT
Like you tweetiepiesmom, I live alone and my daughter although she lives not far from me has an auto-immune deficiency, so her safety is paramount to mine and me!! I have good neighbours though, they haven't been in touch over the past few days, but no doubt we will text or something soon. We all try to help one another out. Do you have neighbours close by at all. This will pass in time I know, but how long??? That is the biggest problem I think. Thank heavens for the internet and Skype!! Hope it doesn't all crash now for the increased number of people using it! As an aside, went to Sainsburys yesterday, only two tills open and a queue along the whole shop!! So if you want just one or two things, well, need I say more? I usually buy two or three packs of paracetamol per week, and use them all. No chance now, shelves are empty! Will just have to put up with the pains. The thing is, supplies are being delivered to supermarkets, but one can't keep going out to check if they are in stock!!!
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Mar 17, 2020 8:54:24 GMT
Not quite true, re immunity. You can develop immunity, built antibodies to viruses. The trouble with viruses is that they often mutate faster than the body can adapt. Every cold and flu is a different strain from the one you had the year before; that's why you get the cold or flu "again". If anyone wants a read ... www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780128009468000040That is what I thought Hezz. If you couldn't develop immunity to the virus then they wouldn't bother looking for a vaccine. I get the flu vaccine every year and before I did, I had flu three Christmases in a row, that cannot be a coincidence. Definition of vaccine: a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 9:24:10 GMT
There’s the panic buying, and then there are the people bulk buying stuff to sell for a profit. If everyone just bought things as normal, maybe one extra of some things that could be stored, it would all probably be fine. Hand sanitiser doesn’t even stay on your hands long enough to damage the virus, it’s more for bacteria, and if there’s no pump soap, bar soap is just as good, and both shower gel and bath soaps contain the same ingredients that soap has which will break apart the virus.
I’m interested to see what will be going on in the hospital when I start my placement tonight.
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Post by criswell on Mar 17, 2020 12:13:22 GMT
I hope your first night of placement isn't too stressful @sillycat84 And thank you for the information on the vaccine trial and the situation in China tweetiepiesmom, both of which were very interesting and useful. It seemed fairly normal out at the shops this morning. I went to the co-op today instead of Tesco and I was able to buy rice and porridge oats which were the only 2 things I haven't been able to get. I've just had a order from Haith's delivered so the boys will be fine. David had a very easy drive to and from work yesterday as traffic was much quieter than usual. My niece is feeling much better now and she can go back to work on Friday. She's not sure if it was coronavirus or just a cold and that's a real problem for everyone, so it will be great when the new test to see if people have had it is ready to use. It's going to be very difficult for people who can't go back to work because their work place is closed.
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Post by skysmum on Mar 17, 2020 12:25:49 GMT
I'm probably missing the point somewhere and i know this is a particularly nasty virus but if you look at past statistics the death toll from flu is pretty high anyway. Just for example in the UK in 2017 when they got the vaccine wrong 50,000 people died from flu related complications, in 2015 28,189 died and in 2013 11,000 died so on and so fourth. I'm not making light of this horrible thing and we are being very careful, my mum is 90 and i am her main carer but i feel this has gone way over the top. I pray i don't eat my words later but just saying
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Post by Marianne Marlow on Mar 17, 2020 13:55:12 GMT
Whilst that is true skysmum, this is a very new virus and is continually growing, so we do not know what the future implications will be.
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