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Post by samwiseg on May 23, 2015 9:20:29 GMT
I am afraid to say H2O that Shirls is right it does look like bumblefoot. This is the website Shirls was referring to BumblefootAnd yes would advise to take her to a vet if possible
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Post by Hezz on May 23, 2015 9:56:13 GMT
It doesn't look good, I have to say. She looks to be suffering with those feet. I would get them seen to as soon as possible. Poor little girl.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 6:49:41 GMT
Just had a look H2O and most pharmacies sell Epson Salts, even Amazon as well as other on-line companies. I notice also that Tesco do an Epsom Salt cream - that may be useful. You mentioned Epsom Salt cream...I went in to Boots and they sold me a small pot of Magnesium Sulphate Paste....said it's the same as Epsom Salts but in a paste. At the moment I have been applying Sudocrem twice daily and it really has taken down the inflammation...been putting on a blob and gently massaging it in...the budgie has looked a lot happier today and she's not holding her feet up. If I do need to use the Magnesium Sulphate paste, how often do you think is ok...once or twice a day? Thanks
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Post by Shirls on May 24, 2015 7:13:01 GMT
Hi H2O. I can only suggest what I would do myself, and that is use the paste twice a day. On checking the Sudocrem and the Savlon, the Sudocrem is just a barrier, whereas the Savlon is an antiseptic cream. So, I would revert myself to the Savlon another time. It is recommended on the internet that you should treat bumblefoot with Epson Salts, so my opinion would be to use that only for the time being and hopefully it will show some results in time. Apparently this is a problem that takes a really long time to clear up!! However, you are doing a brilliant job as you have noticed improvements in Ruby's feet already, bless her. Keep it up and keep us posted.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 7:34:47 GMT
I'm wondering if Fucidin cream is any good to use....it works wonders for human skin problems...seen this on another site where someone has applied it to their chickens head...see link. LINK: www.backyardchickens.com/t/827086/one-of-my-females-has-been-scalpedDefinitely going to try this...my Doctor prescribes this cream for me as I have skin allergies etc.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 7:43:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 7:47:15 GMT
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Post by Hezz on May 24, 2015 7:56:52 GMT
Neosporin is an antifungal cream; I haven't looked at your link, it may already say that, just thought I would add that because unless you know it is a fungal infection, it shouldn't be being used. This is how multiple resistant bacteria, fungi and the in-betweens happen - from too much over-use and in the wrong hands. I do hate how easily some countries make antibiotics and the like so easily avialable. Over-use is the reason Penicillin is no long the drug-of choice that it used to be; germs are smart and ever-evolving; they find ways around the drugs used to combat them.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 8:03:10 GMT
So the Fucidin cream looks to be the better bet as it's for bacterial skin infections?
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Post by Hezz on May 24, 2015 8:18:28 GMT
Just having a look at what is the causative agent in bumblefoot, and it is Staph aureas, which is a halophilic; some now call it a haloduric ; it loves a salty environment, or it can endure a salty environment, so I am not so sure that Empson salts will help ......... all the on-line suggestions give Epsom salts the thumbs up .... and I have not had the dubious pleasure of having to treat this wretched thing. But the one constant is that the cheesy paste like stuff has to be gotten rid of. Is Ruby at this stage yet??
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 8:28:50 GMT
No she isn't thank heavens...I hope I've caught it early enough to get on top of it and will try the Fucidin cream as lots of people appear to recommend it and say it has worked.
It says to clean the feet with Hydrogen Peroxide before applying any cream as this cleans the wounds and helps to destroy any bacteria...do they mean neat Hydrogen Peroxide or diluted and if so what ratio. Thanks
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 8:38:07 GMT
I just can't understand how she got this in the first place...I have never used plastic or sand covered perches and they all get a vast range of veggies every other day without fail...she doesn't have any staining of the feathers above the nostrils either so I can only assume their love of eggy biscuits is the reason this has happened...too much protein
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Post by Shirls on May 24, 2015 9:26:25 GMT
A lack of Vitmin A is a contributory factor H2O. Bit disappointed with what Hezz has said about Epsom Salts, being as it is what is recommended by Barrie Shutt and others. Leaves us both with another dilemma. My birds all have carrot regularly which is a good source of Vit A plus a variety of other veggies. And they have good perches and flooring, so heaven knows the cause here. Perhaps both our birds have sensitive, thin skin on their feet???
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 9:37:41 GMT
Do you use Hydrogen Peroxide to clean the feet also....just wondered if it's supposed to be used neat or mixed with water and if so what ratio. Thanks
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 9:45:29 GMT
Appears they don't even recommend that anymore so what was once recommended is now being stopped. "Using hydrogen peroxide or rubbing alcohol to clean an injury can actually harm the tissue and delay healing."
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